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From cmanola...@yahoo.com
Subject RE: Tomcat Admin Web Interface
Date Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:13:09 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Morrison, John wrote:

> Would/could this be implemented as a web context with (possibly) some
> 'administration' flag set in it's context that way, if you didn't want to
> have a GUI (security?) you could just remove the context?

This is how it is implemented today in tomcat 3.x.

It has some nice features already - you can use it to deploy/undeploy
apps, see informations about the server, run watchdog and tests ( from 
a web interface, no more command line and class path hacking ).

What's missing the most is a nice look and improvement in the presentation
part, and maybe other pages.

We are using simple JSP pages, with few special taglibs to allow access
to the internals. 

( the development was mostly driven by need to have a convenient way to
test and check internal state - there are few pages that still need to be
checked in, the auth admin and few more state info, but right now I'm
overloaded )


Costin


> 
> Just my 2p worth ;)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cmanolache@yahoo.com [mailto:cmanolache@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 23:13
> To: 'tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org'
> Subject: RE: Tomcat Admin Web Interface
> 
> 
> 
> It would be very good at this stage to go back 1 1/2 years in tomcat
> archives and re-read the "admin" thread. It was a huge discussion, with
> many ideas - but nothing happened. 
> 
> As usual, my opinion is that you should start with a prototype and/or
> existing code - and figure out what is the best way to do it by trying
> different aproaches. 
> 
> Costin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Eric Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Count me in on working on an admin interface for Tomcat.  This along with
> a
> > better install/connector config program would go a long way to improve the
> > overall usability of Tomcat for me.
> > 
> > Having had experience working on server product GUIs, the plan to decide
> > what goes into the GUI before starting the project is definitely the best
> > way to go.  Even though there is a considerable amount of planning and
> > discussion that goes into the GUI requirements sheet, in the end it is
> > easier to deny unreasonable requests like, "we have this new functionality
> > two weeks before the release can you incorporate it into the admin
> > interface?", or "I'd like the GUI to wash and wax my car."  A hard and
> fast
> > list of GUI features for each release is essential to keeping the GUI
> > project manageable
> > 
> > My 2 cents.
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, M B wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello All,
> > > 
> > > In response to the recent postings regarding Tomcat
> > > documentation and administration (Re: ~rant~ Docs,
> > > user list, etc.), I am willing to contribute much
> > > effort in this area.  In addition to documentation, I
> > > am particularly interested in helping to build an
> > > administrative web interface for Tomcat 4.0, something
> > > similar to JRun Management Console, for example.
> > > 
> > 
> > That would be awesome!
> > 
> > > Naturally, I want to coordinate my efforts with the
> > > Tomcat community.  Can anyone please point out where I
> > > should begin, or who I should contact?  Is there a
> > > project for this?  The Catalina TODO identifies John
> > > Shin as volunteer for producing an admin interface,
> > > but I thought I should email this list before
> > > contacting him directly.  
> > > 
> > 
> > He volunteered long, long, ago but I haven't heard anything from him
> > lately.
> > 
> > As it happens, I've been accumulating a list of functional requirements
> > for admin capabilities that I'd like to post for discussion.  I'll be
> > finished with what I'm thinking in the next couple of days.
> > 
> > What I'd like to see us do on issues like this is to discuss and agree on
> > a functional specs document that is checked in to the CVS repository, and
> > then start working together on the pieces.  It's a little more formal than
> > the usual :-) open source approach, but I think it will help in the long
> > run.  Does that sound like a useful plan?
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > > 
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
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