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From "Craig R. McClanahan" <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] New Committer: Amy Roh
Date Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:59:09 GMT

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Dan Milstein wrote:

> I have to say that I am a bit uncomfortable with this.  The guidelines on
> the website say (
> "Developers who give frequent and valuable contributions to a subproject of
> the Project can have their status promoted to that of a "Committer" for that
> subproject."
> It sounds like Amy has contributed good work which people at Sun have seen,
> but, as a developer who only communicates via the list, I haven't seen
> anything she's done (I haven't missed any things she's submitted, have I?  I
> have this vague memory of ezmlm complaining about not being able reach me). 
> I'm also not clear if her documentation and test cases are part of the TC
> 4.x code base or part of the JSP spec (since she's working on the
> "JSP/Servlet Team")
> I don't want this to turn into a Sun-bashing thread -- I think it is
> *fantastic* that Sun is giving excellent developers a chance to work
> full-time on an open source Tomcat.  And I would love to have more people
> who can contribute to the project.
> But I think those guidelines are important -- in terms of our social
> organization, I think it is reasonable to require a new developer to submit
> patches and ideas to the list at large, so that, when they are proposed as a
> committer, everyone can feel that they're voting for a known quantity.
> Furthermore, since I've been involved, that process has actually occurred
> very quickly (which I think is great).  Once someone has contributed a few
> solid patches, everyone is ready to give them commit access.
> If I'm missing part of the story, I'd be happy to change my mind, but I
> guess I'm -1 until I can better understand what Amy's "frequent and valuable
> contributions" have been.

Two specific things she has contributed (via posting to the list) were
porting the Application Developer's Guide from 3.2 to 4.0 (which has been
integrated) and several additions to the "tester" app (which have been
posted on TOMCAT-DEV but not yet committed -- my fault because I was on
the East Coast for the last two weeks.

She has also reported several bug fixes directly to other committers (not
through the list -- you're right about appropriate guidelines, and they
should have been posted as patches).
> -Dan


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