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From Anil Vijendran <>
Subject Re: Forming an opinion
Date Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:33:30 GMT
Jon Stevens wrote:

> on 1/22/01 1:55 PM, "Anil Vijendran" <> wrote:
> > That said, I don't understand why you bring this up _now_.
> I didn't bring it up earlier cause you weren't carrying on this discussion
> about trying to censor me...nor was it something that "I can/should
> bring up at the PMC." Do you see how I'm put on the offensive?
> Early on, I tried to be civil. It didn't work. I needed to bring the
> discussion up a level to get people to notice.

Well, okay. If you say you are trying to be civil (instead of attacking people)
I'm grateful for that and willing to trust you.

Let me reiterate that I'm not trying to be offensive. Just merely telling
(correction: requesting) you not to be offensive. If you continue to be
offensive, I have no choice but to be offensive myself. This is my conditioned
response as I see no reason to excuse

> Costin (and others) were doing whatever the fuck they wanted to do
> regardless of what everyone voted on. It was starting to disrupt the ability
> of this project to get work done as well as focus on the future.

How many times has this been repeated?! NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH YOU BRINGING

> As Kurt Schrader smartly said:
> "Whether or not you agree with the way he puts things or whether or not he's
> "nice" enough, you have to admit that he took the initiative to kick this
> project in the ass and make sure that its goals and future were clearly
> defined when he decided that they weren't.  If that involves pissing some
> people off or hurting some feelings along the way, then so be it.  As far as
> I can tell, every good project should have someone like him.  The last thing
> we need is the idea police here to make sure that no one is offended by
> someone's postings not being up to their standards of niceness.  It seems to
> me that if you can't handle having your ideas being called shit then you
> should keep them to yourself and not participate here."

I've been long enough around here (seen lots of other people too) and have been
affected by your behavior (in more ways than one) that I can't talk like Kurt

> Anil, get over it and move on. The rest of us have.

The rest of you have?? Really? Who started this again? It was James, in case you
missed it.

Peace, Anil +<:-)

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