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From "Paulo Gaspar" <>
Subject RE: TC 4.0 vs. TC 3.x and division of labor
Date Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:23:20 GMT
For what is worth - if potential users opinion still is of some value
- I second this.

Other companies I keep in touch with would second it too.

Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle F. Downey []
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 19:24
> To:
> Subject: TC 4.0 vs. TC 3.x and division of labor
> I've been following of the TC4.0/TC3.2/TC3.3 threads for a while in
> silence, and wanted to make an observation.
> The Tomcat project really has two major types of customers: those who
> want an open source servlet container for their production needs
> ("conservatives"), and those interested in the state-of-the-art
> ("tinkerers"). The project has made the decision--by supporting both 3.x
> and 4.x in parallel--to try to serve both (a good decision, since I think
> there are plenty of people in each user group).
> The values of the conservatives are
> * stability
> * lack of bugs
> * a seamless install
> * performance
> The values of the tinkerers are
> * compliance with the latest standards ("100% buzzword compliant")
> * advanced features
> * elegance
> These two groups have very little in common, except this: both will
> tolerate change so long as it's in the direction of their values. A
> conservative will not argue with you about changing Tomcat 3.2 to 3.3 if
> it's to make it faster, more stable, or less buggy. "More elegant" or
> "more featureful" doesn't cut it, though, which is why I suspect there
> will be little interest in Servlet 2.3 on top of 3.x (thus it's good for
> it to be a "contrib" element, for the few who DO want such a combo).
> I think so long as 3.3 is a move--as Costin says it is--toward a
> better-factored, less-buggy version of 3.2, and all the changes taking
> place are just moving around established, tested code, then it's a good
> direction. I have consulting customers who may very well end their project
> lifecycles still on servlet 2.1, old school or not!
> So long as we keep in mind who's served by a change, and keep it
> consistent with what that groups wants, I think we can safely move 3.x
> through a fairly long arc. There seems to be enough interest in each
> viewpoint to support 3.x and 4.x at once without bogging down the project.
> regards,
> kd

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