Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 75896 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2000 06:11:22 -0000 Received: from mail.clearink.com (HELO clearink.com) (205.227.191.11) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2000 06:11:22 -0000 Received: from [131.161.251.227] ([131.161.251.227]) by clearink.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6I6B5806169 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:11:06 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:11:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Any progress on the bug tracking system? From: Jon Stevens To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N on 7/17/2000 10:49 PM, "brian moseley" wrote: > what exactly is "getting it right"? #1. Good UI design. #2. Good database design. #3. Good code design. So far, Bugzilla is missing on all three points. > actually i think the guy has a pretty good point, one that > i've been trying to make to folks here at the conference. > everybody's so engrossed in writing every application in the > technological flavor of the day, they tend to forget that > the user community would be pretty happy with a single > stable usable secure tool. if one doesn't exist, build it. > if one exists but has some architecture besides java > servlets, might not our time be better spent elsewhere? That would be great, except bugzilla doesn't have a good architecture at all and fixing it would mean re-coding it from scratch. For Scarab, yes I am taking all the good ideas in bugzilla and duplicating them, but at the same time, I'm also doing my best to fix all the wrong ideas. > disagree. let's as a community focus on problems that have > yet to be solved, rather than those for which solutions are > a dime a dozen. Huh? That doesn't make any sense in regards to bugzilla. Sorry, but issue tracking systems are not a dime a dozen. If they were, we would have more good choices than gnats, bugzilla and jitterbug. > i'll look into scarab. perhaps it will meet the needs of my > community (mod_perl). if so, i'll be glad to use it. If you are in the mod_perl community, what are you doing on this list? :-) > otherwise, i suspect one of us will get around to > re-implementing bugzilla. Like I said, I'm trying to start with an excellent and well thought out schema, so I would encourage you to at least use that as a basis. Good helpful comments on the schema are appreciated. -jon