Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 67523 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 13:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dotmail01.dot.state.oh.us) (156.63.133.14) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 13:19:46 -0000 Received: from itccd310 ([192.168.1.99]) by dotmail01.dot.state.oh.us (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2c) with SMTP id 2000071109194219:6448 ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:19:42 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01bfeb3a$b9c72590$6e14730a@dot.state.oh.us> From: "James Cook" To: References: <396AB731.EC30FEB2@eng.sun.com> Subject: Re: Tomcat, Catalina, and Java2 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:20:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on DOTMAIL01/ODOT(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 07/11/2000 09:19:42 AM, Serialize by Router on DOTMAIL01/ODOT(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 07/11/2000 09:19:43 AM, Serialize complete at 07/11/2000 09:19:43 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm a little surprised at the friendly infighting. Just for clarification, is Catalina destined to be Tomcat 4.0, or is there a chance that Tomcat 3.x could take that honor? I assume that this would come up to a vote amongst the contributors, but for those of us that are writing future tools and integration, it would be nice to know. When will this decision take place? I think it will come down to a case where there is no clear winner. It's the classic design vs. performance question. I would be surprised if the more componetized and better designed Catalina could outperform the more evolutionary, but harder to learn, Tomcat. Then again, this is supposed to be a reference platform, and design should win out. jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Costin Manolache To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat, Catalina, and Java2 > > > That fresh start, in the > > > opinion of lots of folks that have looked at it, is Catalina. > > > > I agree. Craig also didn't mention the fact that Tomcat's code base is a > > mess and hard to read. It has gotten better in what will be 3.2, but it is > > still really hard to understand. Catalina is simply much cleaner and also is > > very well documented. It is the right direction IMHO. > > Except the design, Catalina is indeed much better. Fortunately, on long term > the best design tends to survive and win - the code's mess is less important. > :-) > > I'm of course looking forward to see Catalina implement the same features as > tomcat at the same peformance level, and _then_ compare code complexity. It > alredy have it's own little mess ( I spent few days to merge back the session > and http code into tomcat and it still doesn't work. Try yourself and you'll > have a different perspective ) > > > Costin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org > >