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From "James Cook" <>
Subject Re: Tomcat, Catalina, and Java2
Date Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:20:04 GMT
I'm a little surprised at the friendly infighting. Just for clarification,
is Catalina destined to be Tomcat 4.0, or is there a chance that Tomcat 3.x
could take that honor? I assume that this would come up to a vote amongst
the contributors, but for those of us that are writing future tools and
integration, it would be nice to know. When will this decision take place?

I think it will come down to a case where there is no clear winner. It's the
classic design vs. performance question. I would be surprised if the more
componetized and better designed Catalina could outperform the more
evolutionary, but harder to learn, Tomcat. Then again, this is supposed to
be a reference platform, and design should win out.


----- Original Message -----
From: Costin Manolache <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: Tomcat, Catalina, and Java2

> > > That fresh start, in the
> > > opinion of lots of folks that have looked at it, is Catalina.
> >
> > I agree. Craig also didn't mention the fact that Tomcat's code base is a
> > mess and hard to read. It has gotten better in what will be 3.2, but it
> > still really hard to understand. Catalina is simply much cleaner and
also is
> > very well documented. It is the right direction IMHO.
> Except the design, Catalina is indeed much better. Fortunately, on long
> the best design tends to survive and win - the code's mess is less
> :-)
> I'm of course looking forward to see Catalina implement the same features
> tomcat at the same peformance level, and _then_ compare code complexity.
> alredy have it's own little mess ( I spent few days to merge back the
> and http code into tomcat and it still doesn't work.  Try yourself and
> have a different perspective )
> Costin
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