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From James Todd <>
Subject Re: open processes...
Date Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:32:22 GMT

indeed. i understanding the benefits in keeping the working team small
and focused as the issues at hand are tough enough. the problem is that
little or no time is spent on doc'ing the ongoing thoughts and discussions
which would be invaluable as a spec reference for the implementation
team to "read between the spec lines" so to speak.

if i had my way, the working alias would be open and archived yet only
the working group could post to it. that way, any/all could see the ongoing
thread and the archive would archived for posterity. parallel discussions
could take place on the associated dev aliases (ie tomcat-dev) and the
like. seems like a solid middle ground to me and i believe it'd expedite
things nicely.


- james

Ben Laurie wrote:

> James Todd wrote:
> >
> > "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > * When the first public drafts of a new specification are released, there
> > >   is usually no hint of all the back room discussions, and rejected design
> > >   choices, that went on before that release occurred.  Unfortunately, this
> > >   sometimes leaves people wondering "why in the heck did they choose
> > >   THAT approach," and can lead to the (usually mistaken) conclusion that
> > >   no other alternative was considered.
> >
> > this one ranks pretty high in my book. while it is possible to build an
> > implementation
> > with nothing but a spec in hand it would be extremely helpful to see the
> > formulating thoughts and discussions that went into the decission making process.
> Which leads one to wonder why things aren't done in the IETF WG way
> (i.e. working groups are open to all comers). Because the only way you
> are ever going to get access to the thoughts and discussions is by full
> disclosure, and if you are going to do that, you may as well let people
> join in before it is too late.
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> --
> "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> first group; there was less competition there."
>      - Indira Gandhi
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