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From: "Scott Tavares" <stavares@home.com>
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Subject: Re: XML configuration revisited
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:54:19 -0400
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Don't forget Argo/UML
http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/ &
http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/v07/docs/codeorg.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Poppe <troy@sba.miami.edu>
To: <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: XML configuration revisited


> On Mon, Oct 11, 1999 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Jan-Henrik Haukeland wrote:
> > Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > > James Todd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the hosting system need not know or be exposed to the
> > > > component details but instead provided the bare minimum
> > > > needed to establish the relationship and delegate the
> > > > work to the component. the work is in definining the
> > > > interface amongst the container and the component.
> > >
> > > I'm finding that a little difficult to parse, but assuming I've
> > > understood you, I think I agree. However, I suspect that all you've
done
> > > is restated the problem without getting us any closer to a solution.
> >
> > On the contrary, at least James et.al. did a good architectural stab
> > at getting at one solution
> >
> > (http://java.sun.com/people/gonzo/tomcat/ConfigService.jpg)
> >
> > I do feel that James is right (also) when he said that it was the lack
> > of code that sort of damped down the discussion. It's only possible to
> > discuss the "emperors new clothes" that far. BTW AFAI remember, the
> > discussion went much farther than discussing DTD's which is (and to an
> > extent should be) only a _minor_ thing in this problem domain.
>
> Actually, I was about to say the same thing (thanks Jan).  We got to
> the point where we determined that we needed to know more about what
> we were looking at as far as scope in order to determine where to go
> next. (ie. look at the code drop and figure out how things are interally
> structured).
>
> Also, does anyone remember the colloraboration(horribly misspelled ;) )
> tool discussion?  Did we ever decide on any particular tool?  Together/J
> was mentioned, as was VThought.  (I remember hearing that we probably
> had a better chance with Together/J because of the Java aspect).  Anyone
> adverse to starting that discussion again?  Perhaps a [VOTE] thread
> on this?
>
> - Troy
>
>
>
>
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