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<updated>2009-12-06T12:28:24Z</updated>
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<title>RE: [ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.2.1 Beta released</title>
<author><name>&quot;Smith, David W&quot; &lt;david.w.smith@bankofamerica.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c711D2F541F5B9348B0DC7040E80777BF0B4C21@ex2k.bankofamerica.com%3e"/>
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<updated>2009-10-29T08:42:04Z</updated>
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Antonio,

Is Tiles-475 in this release. I don't see it in the release notes but
the comments on the issue indicate that it might have been fixed.

David


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<title>[ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.2.1 Beta released</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910290131g405f47f4u3e7588eb3aef1f08@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910290131g405f47f4u3e7588eb3aef1f08@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-29T08:31:37Z</updated>
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The Apache Tiles team is pleased to announce the release of Tiles 2.2.1
Beta.

Tiles 2.2.1 is available in a binary and a source distribution.

http://tiles.apache.org/download.html

It is also available in the central Maven repository under Group ID
"org.apache.tiles".

The 2.2.x series of the Apache Tiles framework has a minimum
requirement of the following specification versions:

* Java Servlet 2.5 and JavaServer Pages (JSP) 2.1
* Java Standard Edition (Java SE) 1.5

The release notes are available online at:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21941

Please feel free to test the distribution and post your comments to
the user list, or, if appropriate, file a ticket with JIRA.


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<title>[ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.1.4 GA released</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910290129l4f6f4e7er55c25b1ebd60398e@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-29T08:29:44Z</updated>
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The Apache Tiles team is pleased to announce the release of Tiles 2.1.4 GA.

Tiles 2.1.4 is available in a binary and a source distribution.

http://tiles.apache.org/download21.html

It is also available in the central Maven repository under Group ID
"org.apache.tiles".

The 2.1.x series of the Apache Tiles framework has a minimum
requirement of the following specification versions:

* Java Servlet 2.4 and JavaServer Pages (JSP) 2.0
* Java Standard Edition (Java SE) 1.5

The release notes are available online at:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21940

Please feel free to test the distribution and post your comments to
the user list, or, if appropriate, file a ticket with JIRA.


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<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910270129u12e96f00mfd47ee3db987b4aa@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910270129u12e96f00mfd47ee3db987b4aa@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-27T08:29:16Z</updated>
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2009/10/26 Wendy Smoak &lt;wsmoak@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt; On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&gt; &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; * the velocity tools version it is based on is a snapshot.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The latter probably is a cause to vote the release to be an alpha, but
&gt;&gt; I suppose beta is more appropriate since Velocity Tools is pretty
&gt;&gt; stable, in spite of its snapshot level.
&gt;
&gt; How did you do a release with a snapshot dependency?

I used the -DignoreSnapshots=true parameter. I tried with:
-DallowTimestampedSnapshots=true
but it does not work at all, though I have a timestamped snapshot
dependency to Velocity Tools.

Antonio


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<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Wendy Smoak &lt;wsmoak@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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<id>urn:uuid:%3cadba96190910261423q54178ce2g3f21a06f35a391df@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-26T21:23:14Z</updated>
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; * the velocity tools version it is based on is a snapshot.
&gt;
&gt; The latter probably is a cause to vote the release to be an alpha, but
&gt; I suppose beta is more appropriate since Velocity Tools is pretty
&gt; stable, in spite of its snapshot level.

How did you do a release with a snapshot dependency?

-- 
Wendy


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<title>[RESULT] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910261255p7b564f28t444c397ad8868cb8@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910261255p7b564f28t444c397ad8868cb8@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-26T19:55:36Z</updated>
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Result of the vote:

+1 Beta: Antonio, Greg, Nathan.

Now I have no excuses, time to release :-D

Antonio


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<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Nathan Bubna &lt;nbubna@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c4d651da50910261114x1257ac84m98f97773110225d1@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c4d651da50910261114x1257ac84m98f97773110225d1@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-26T18:14:11Z</updated>
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+1 Beta (yeah, the veltools snapshot is quite stable.  struggling for
time to get it released...)

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; 2009/10/18 Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt;&gt;  [X] Beta
&gt;
&gt; +1 to Beta, IMO, because:
&gt; * the previous version was of Alpha quality and a lot of packages (and
&gt; their organization) have changed since then;
&gt; * the velocity tools version it is based on is a snapshot.
&gt;
&gt; The latter probably is a cause to vote the release to be an alpha, but
&gt; I suppose beta is more appropriate since Velocity Tools is pretty
&gt; stable, in spite of its snapshot level.
&gt;
&gt; Antonio
&gt;


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<entry>
<title>[RESULT] Tiles 2.1.4 release quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910261047u1fe1e39ej4e6e8b429d52e969@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910261047u1fe1e39ej4e6e8b429d52e969@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-26T17:47:22Z</updated>
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This is the result of the vote:

+1 GA: Antonio, Nathan, Greg.

I will update the site and move artifacts ASAP, but I wish to wait to
complete thevote for the 2.2.1 version, so I do the changes one time
(lazy, eh? :-D )

Antonio


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<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c91478db0910210842t13a377ax16345813eb7d61dc@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0910210842t13a377ax16345813eb7d61dc@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-21T15:42:18Z</updated>
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+1 Beta

Greg

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; The Tiles 2.2.1 test build has been available since 14 Oct 2009.
&gt;
&gt; Release notes:
&gt;
&gt; * https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21941
&gt;
&gt; Distribution:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/
&gt;
&gt; Maven 2 staging repository:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/m2-staging-repository/
&gt;
&gt; If you have had a chance to review the test build, please respond with
&gt; a vote on its quality:
&gt;
&gt;  [ ] Leave at test build
&gt;  [ ] Alpha
&gt;  [ ] Beta
&gt;  [ ] General Availability (GA)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Everyone who has tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC
&gt; members are considered binding. A vote passes if there are at least
&gt; three binding +1s and more +1s than -1s.
&gt;


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<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.1.4 release quality</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c91478db0910210841l3452e5b2n11e8de3190fee506@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0910210841l3452e5b2n11e8de3190fee506@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-21T15:41:38Z</updated>
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+1 GA.

Thanks,
Greg

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; The Tiles 2.1.4 test build has been available since 14 Oct 2009.
&gt;
&gt; Release notes:
&gt;
&gt; * https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21940
&gt;
&gt; Distribution:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/
&gt;
&gt; Maven 2 staging repository:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/m2-staging-repository/
&gt;
&gt; If you have had a chance to review the test build, please respond with
&gt; a vote on its quality:
&gt;
&gt;  [ ] Leave at test build
&gt;  [ ] Alpha
&gt;  [ ] Beta
&gt;  [ ] General Availability (GA)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Everyone who has tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC
&gt; members are considered binding. A vote passes if there are at least
&gt; three binding +1s and more +1s than -1s.
&gt;


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<entry>
<title>TILES-482</title>
<author><name>Aris Tzoumas &lt;atzo@accepted.gr&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3cA22D9EB7-3021-40B5-9FEB-88A47A104BA2@accepted.gr%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3cA22D9EB7-3021-40B5-9FEB-88A47A104BA2@accepted-gr%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-21T06:48:47Z</updated>
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Please have a look at this issue:
https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/TILES-482

Aris Tzoumas



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<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.1.4 release quality</title>
<author><name>Nathan Bubna &lt;nbubna@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c4d651da50910190615mb6bfab0l2a4f17540dfd064d@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c4d651da50910190615mb6bfab0l2a4f17540dfd064d@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-19T13:15:28Z</updated>
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+1 GA

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; The Tiles 2.1.4 test build has been available since 14 Oct 2009.
&gt;
&gt; Release notes:
&gt;
&gt; * https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21940
&gt;
&gt; Distribution:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/
&gt;
&gt; Maven 2 staging repository:
&gt;
&gt;  * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/m2-staging-repository/
&gt;
&gt; If you have had a chance to review the test build, please respond with
&gt; a vote on its quality:
&gt;
&gt;  [ ] Leave at test build
&gt;  [ ] Alpha
&gt;  [ ] Beta
&gt;  [ ] General Availability (GA)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Everyone who has tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC
&gt; members are considered binding. A vote passes if there are at least
&gt; three binding +1s and more +1s than -1s.
&gt;


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<entry>
<title>Sandbox playing for Tiles 3</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910181151h58bc7c10pbdd42e2ecf1420c4@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910181151h58bc7c10pbdd42e2ecf1420c4@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T18:51:55Z</updated>
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Hi all
I wish you to know that I want to create a new sandbox project that
will become (hopefully) the new Tiles 3. A draft of the release plan
is here:
http://cwiki.apache.org/TILES/post-21x-release-plan.html

Ciao
Antonio


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</entry>
<entry>
<title>Moving to Nexus?</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910181104i4ac1035y7e55246f90cbdc4b@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910181104i4ac1035y7e55246f90cbdc4b@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T18:04:49Z</updated>
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How about moving to Nexus repository that Apache kindly gave us to use?
https://repository.apache.org/

All we have to do is creating a JIRA subtask here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1896

Antonio


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<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910180624w7f7cab92u4df6703112b73b25@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910180624w7f7cab92u4df6703112b73b25@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T13:24:50Z</updated>
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2009/10/18 Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt;  [X] Beta

+1 to Beta, IMO, because:
* the previous version was of Alpha quality and a lot of packages (and
their organization) have changed since then;
* the velocity tools version it is based on is a snapshot.

The latter probably is a cause to vote the release to be an alpha, but
I suppose beta is more appropriate since Velocity Tools is pretty
stable, in spite of its snapshot level.

Antonio


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</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [VOTE] Tiles 2.1.4 release quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910180622o4a4aa6dan1b9e854d8dc123b7@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910180622o4a4aa6dan1b9e854d8dc123b7@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T13:22:24Z</updated>
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2009/10/18 Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt;  [X] General Availability (GA)

+1 to GA, only a bug fixing release.

Antonio


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<entry>
<title>[VOTE] Tiles 2.2.1 Release Quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910180620h244f7e44vbb0884f79debdbc7@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910180620h244f7e44vbb0884f79debdbc7@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T13:20:31Z</updated>
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The Tiles 2.2.1 test build has been available since 14 Oct 2009.

Release notes:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21941

Distribution:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/

Maven 2 staging repository:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/m2-staging-repository/

If you have had a chance to review the test build, please respond with
a vote on its quality:

 [ ] Leave at test build
 [ ] Alpha
 [ ] Beta
 [ ] General Availability (GA)


Everyone who has tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC
members are considered binding. A vote passes if there are at least
three binding +1s and more +1s than -1s.


</pre>
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</entry>
<entry>
<title>[VOTE] Tiles 2.1.4 release quality</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910180618l75379fccoc9787d830a52960a@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910180618l75379fccoc9787d830a52960a@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-18T13:18:16Z</updated>
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The Tiles 2.1.4 test build has been available since 14 Oct 2009.

Release notes:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21940

Distribution:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/

Maven 2 staging repository:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/m2-staging-repository/

If you have had a chance to review the test build, please respond with
a vote on its quality:

 [ ] Leave at test build
 [ ] Alpha
 [ ] Beta
 [ ] General Availability (GA)


Everyone who has tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC
members are considered binding. A vote passes if there are at least
three binding +1s and more +1s than -1s.


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.2.1 test build available</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910150610g38ec0a49o293bcf42e94d316e@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910150610g38ec0a49o293bcf42e94d316e@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-15T13:10:37Z</updated>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
2009/10/14 Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt; The test build of Tiles 2.2.1 is available.

Sorry, I forgot to copy the "tiles-test" war (along with hashes and
signatures), because I would like to distribute it directly, not
inside a zip.
Now it is in place:
http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/

Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>[ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.2.1 test build available</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910140601h2fea214eoee7cc1eb0555e396@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910140601h2fea214eoee7cc1eb0555e396@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-14T13:01:03Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
The test build of Tiles 2.2.1 is available.


No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of Tiles
${version} has been made, and at this time it is simply a "test build". We
welcome any comments you may have, and will take all feedback into
account if a quality vote is called for this build.

Release notes:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21941

Distribution:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/

Maven 2 staging repository:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.2.1/m2-staging-repository/

A vote regarding the quality of this test build will be initiated
within the next couple of days.


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>[ANNOUNCE] Tiles 2.1.4 test build available</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910140559l67b89f01sa3b704eab5167366@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910140559l67b89f01sa3b704eab5167366@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-14T12:59:33Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
The test build of Tiles 2.1.4 is available.


No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of Tiles
${version} has been made, and at this time it is simply a "test build". We
welcome any comments you may have, and will take all feedback into
account if a quality vote is called for this build.

Release notes:

* https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10160&amp;styleName=Html&amp;version=21940

Distribution:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/

Maven 2 staging repository:

 * http://people.apache.org/builds/tiles/2.1.4/m2-staging-repository/

A vote regarding the quality of this test build will be initiated
within the next couple of days.


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: About the subversion issue</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910131248g59d6f70dp54aff8c28a14735@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910131248g59d6f70dp54aff8c28a14735@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-13T19:48:39Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
2009/10/13 Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;

&gt; wow. Have you just recently upgraded to svn 1.6.5?
&gt;

Yes, between the 2.1.3 release and this one. The previous version was 1.6.1.
I use kubuntu with a non-official PPA (the official distributes 1.5.x only)
so releases are not so frequent.

Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: About the subversion issue</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c91478db0910131237o5e7cfb8el145c86fd5d2d4a0d@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0910131237o5e7cfb8el145c86fd5d2d4a0d@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-13T19:37:57Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
wow. Have you just recently upgraded to svn 1.6.5?

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; It is fixed, but don't ask me how because the spam filter blocks it...
&gt; I followed this:
&gt; http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=1065&amp;dsMessageId=2402412
&gt;
&gt; Antonio
&gt;


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: Cannot release Tiles</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c91478db0910131235n26ec201ahbd6042c1affc5f0d@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0910131235n26ec201ahbd6042c1affc5f0d@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-13T19:35:59Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; svn: MKACTIVITY of
&gt; '/repos/asf/!svn/act/d0448085-14b9-446f-b59f-7fd92b5dfe58': authorization
&gt; failed: Could not authenticate to server: rejected Basic challenge (
&gt; https://svn.eu.apache.org)

You've used the EU mirror before haven't you? Could that be the issue?

&gt; Notice that I disabled the "--non-interactive" flag, for debug reasons.
&gt; The strange thing is that I see the same problem when committing from
&gt; command line, but it goes ok when committing from Eclipse/Subclipse/SVNKit.

Wow, that's really odd. I've never seen that kind of behavior before.
Do you know what version of Subversion is being used by Eclipse?

Greg


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>About the subversion issue</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910131233g715912c7sd2b4b62ef8b4da2e@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910131233g715912c7sd2b4b62ef8b4da2e@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-13T19:33:32Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
It is fixed, but don't ask me how because the spam filter blocks it...
I followed this:
http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=1065&amp;dsMessageId=2402412

Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Cannot release Tiles</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910130742o296892bfkf15b0fee253672b8@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910130742o296892bfkf15b0fee253672b8@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-13T14:42:15Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
There's a strange problem with releasing Tiles.
If I try to use the release:prepare goal, I see this error:

&lt;snip&gt;
Executing: /bin/sh -c cd
/home/antonio/javadev/workspace-branches/tiles-parent &amp;&amp; svn --username
apetrelli --password '*****' commit --file /tmp/maven-scm-139825771.commit
--targets /tmp/maven-scm-8753107386538068137-targets
[INFO] Working directory:
/home/antonio/javadev/workspace-branches/tiles-parent

Password for 'default' GNOME
keyring:

[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ERROR] BUILD
FAILURE

[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------

[INFO] Unable to commit
files

Provider
message:

The svn command
failed.

Command
output:

svn: Commit failed (details
follow):

svn: MKACTIVITY of
'/repos/asf/!svn/act/d0448085-14b9-446f-b59f-7fd92b5dfe58': authorization
failed: Could not authenticate to server: rejected Basic challenge (
https://svn.eu.apache.org)

&lt;/snip&gt;

Notice that I disabled the "--non-interactive" flag, for debug reasons.
The strange thing is that I see the same problem when committing from
command line, but it goes ok when committing from Eclipse/Subclipse/SVNKit.
I am using Subversion 1.6.5.
Thoughts? Help anyone?

Thanks
Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: Releasing 2.1.4 and 2.2.1</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3c91478db0910110144g606c2e6bw7cc53bb930c3e9f1@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0910110144g606c2e6bw7cc53bb930c3e9f1@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-11T08:44:31Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Hi all,
&gt; in the next days I would like to start the release process for Tiles
&gt; 2.1.4 and 2.2.1
&gt; Tiles 2.1.4 will be a bug-fixing release, while 2.2.1 has completely
&gt; different, and smaller, packages comparing to 2.2.0.

Sounds like a good plan.

Greg


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Releasing 2.1.4 and 2.2.1</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910091213x35325f55tb3bfc4a9e7c839da@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910091213x35325f55tb3bfc4a9e7c839da@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-09T19:13:54Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Hi all,
in the next days I would like to start the release process for Tiles
2.1.4 and 2.2.1
Tiles 2.1.4 will be a bug-fixing release, while 2.2.1 has completely
different, and smaller, packages comparing to 2.2.0.

The only problem that I see in 2.2.x is the use of a snapshot of
Velocity Tools. I think they need a boost, so after the release I will
start helping them.

Thoughts?
Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Test</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200910.mbox/%3caae96ca0910091211w33c8eec1q5d1a884a5ca37eec@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0910091211w33c8eec1q5d1a884a5ca37eec@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-10-09T19:11:26Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Does it work? Please ignore....


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: First portlet using Tiles available</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3c91478db0909250729p1c4da7bfhc6bf9f208741c62a@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0909250729p1c4da7bfhc6bf9f208741c62a@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-25T14:29:48Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Hello
&gt; If you check the latest version of tiles-test webapp, both trunk and
&gt; TILES_2_1_X, you will notice that it became a portlet webapp.
&gt; If you deploy it in a portlet container (tried with JBoss Portal
&gt; 2.7.2) you will see a portlet that asks for a definition name and
&gt; tries to render it.

Awesome! Thanks for that.

Greg


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>First portlet using Tiles available</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3caae96ca0909250621r30a140b2kee149790aebcc0e1@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0909250621r30a140b2kee149790aebcc0e1@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-25T13:21:54Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Hello
If you check the latest version of tiles-test webapp, both trunk and
TILES_2_1_X, you will notice that it became a portlet webapp.
If you deploy it in a portlet container (tried with JBoss Portal
2.7.2) you will see a portlet that asks for a definition name and
tries to render it.
Currently it only works with complete definitions (will all attributes
set) based on JSP. Velocity and FreeMarker do not work, currently, in
a portlet environment simply because they are servlet-based.
If, some day, one of them (or both) support the Tiles request context
objects (or the renamed package) they can become
technology-independent.

Ciao
Antonio


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>[REPORT] Apache Tiles Project</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;greddin@apache.org&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3c91478db0909171202r31273ca2lbda87dab66befee7@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0909171202r31273ca2lbda87dab66befee7@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-17T19:02:38Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Releases

We have made three releases this quarter. 2.1.2 was a simple bugfix
release that
fixed a security issue documented here:

   http://tiles.apache.org/framework/security/security-bulletin-1.html

Release 2.1.3 is the latest GA release. It includes several other bugfixes and
enhancements. We also released the first version of the 2.2.x series.
Apache Tiles
2.2.0 is an alpha-quality release. It series adds several new
features, including:

 * Native support for Freemarker and Velocity
 * Support for pattern matching using regular expressions.
 * OGNL support and MVEL support in Tiles definition files, when
specifying attributes and templates.
 * Ready to use configuration classes to ease startup with minimal coding.

Additionally, 2.2.0 removes some backwards-compatibility features.
These features
allowed Tiles to work with older architectures (Java 1.4/Servlet 2.4) that are
no longer supported.

Community

As I've noted in the past I am somewhat concerned about the stability of the
Tiles community. We have no trouble mustering up the votes needed for releases.
Development discussions continue to produce multiple points of view. But the
development and release work is still performed by one PMC member. The truth of
the matter is that if this developer stopped working on Tiles there would be no
further progress. There is a healthy amount of traffic on the user
list, but this
developer also answers the bulk of the questions there. So if he were to leave
the project and no one stepped up to take his place that activity would come to
a halt as well. The rest of us are still interested in the project, but it does
not affect our daily work to the extent that we are compelled to contribute in
a more concrete way.

When Tiles was a Struts subproject it was designed to only work with Struts. Now
it is a standalone templating engine that is not tied to a specific framework.
Our biggest user base probably comes from the Spring community. We have a
significant number from the Struts 2 and JSF user base as well. But
most of these
users tend to think of Tiles as a third-party dependency rather than a library
in its own right that needs to be developed. Hence, we have a healthy stream of
user list traffic, but we have been unable to translate any of those people into
new committers. It's worth noting that we have not made a significant effort to
reach out beyond our community to seek growth using the PRC or other resources.

I believe that Tiles still offers some compelling features and there is still
development work to be done. As long as there is still someone around to do the
work and we still have the people to vet releases I'm willing to continue
supporting the project administratively, at least. I don't see Tiles as a
candidate for the Attic at this time, but if development stops it may be in the
future.


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: The future of Tiles (WAS: DRAFT September Board Report)</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3c91478db0909160851y70c4ba2j6a17695c706459d@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0909160851y70c4ba2j6a17695c706459d@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-16T15:51:26Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; I also don't do much hobby-coding :-) Most of my hobby
&gt;&gt; time is spent doing musical stuff.
&gt;
&gt; Definitely a better way to use your spare time. Can we listen samples
&gt; of your work?

Well, I haven't recorded my own stuff in a very long time. I've been
doing mostly live sound for bands and churches and some demo
recordings. But I'm really hoping to record some of my own music this
fall - so maybe. Or maybe I'll get brave enough to post something from
10 years ago, but that would be embarrassing :-)

Greg


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: The future of Tiles (WAS: DRAFT September Board Report)</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3caae96ca0909160813g7249f67dx26e1953b2e393c47@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3caae96ca0909160813g7249f67dx26e1953b2e393c47@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-16T15:13:05Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
2009/9/16 Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt; On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&gt; &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Last but not least, Tiles is not a niche as you imagine: it seems that
&gt;&gt; it is really appreciated by Spring community, so probably it could
&gt;&gt; become a Spring project (joking... almost).
&gt;
&gt; I did not realize that. So is Sitemesh no longer around or do people
&gt; just not like to use it?

I can only speak about Tiles, I see a bit of activity for Spring MVC
support of Tiles. The last release of Sitemesh is in March 2009 [1]
after two years of silence.

&gt; One thing that gets me is that we have a
&gt; good bit of user list traffic, but I haven't been able to translate
&gt; any of that  into committers.

Yep, it's frustrating.

&gt; I also don't do much hobby-coding :-) Most of my hobby
&gt; time is spent doing musical stuff.

Definitely a better way to use your spare time. Can we listen samples
of your work?

Antonio

[1] http://www.opensymphony.com/sitemesh/download.action


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: The future of Tiles (WAS: DRAFT September Board Report)</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3c91478db0909160721s2d40ef67qe2878b261c0cd942@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c91478db0909160721s2d40ef67qe2878b261c0cd942@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-16T14:21:17Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Antonio Petrelli
&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Last but not least, Tiles is not a niche as you imagine: it seems that
&gt; it is really appreciated by Spring community, so probably it could
&gt; become a Spring project (joking... almost).

I did not realize that. So is Sitemesh no longer around or do people
just not like to use it? I'll revise the report a bit from the
discussion we're having here. One thing that gets me is that we have a
good bit of user list traffic, but I haven't been able to translate
any of that  into committers.

A bit more of my story... When I first started converting Tiles from
the Struts-Tiles project to Standalone Tiles I had just started my
current job, which is working with portals. I really thought we would
get a lot of use out of Tiles, but our development architecture
wouldn't support it. I think Tiles could be extremely useful in a
portlet server, but I haven't seen it materialize that much, nor have
I had time to pursue it myself. Now our development is more focused on
Flex and Groovy and the like and we hardly do any Servlet-based
development. I also don't do much hobby-coding :-) Most of my hobby
time is spent doing musical stuff.

I'll let this thread run for a while before I revise the board report.
It's supposed to be due today, but I think they moved the meeting to
next week.

Greg


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: DRAFT September Board Report</title>
<author><name>Nathan Bubna &lt;nbubna@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tiles-dev/200909.mbox/%3c4d651da50909160710p1efcd05dw139d7c9f45aaf36a@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c4d651da50909160710p1efcd05dw139d7c9f45aaf36a@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-09-16T14:10:19Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Your "speaking for myself" part, describes my current status
perfectly.  And you're right, the board should be aware.  I had hoped
things would change, but our clients seek ajax now, and i've been
shifted increasingly to client-side work.  Composing pages on the
backend is becoming less important almost daily.  I see no likelihood
that i'll ever have reason to participate in Tiles beyond my current
level.  Even my time for participation in the Velocity community may
atrophy as this shift in our development and my responsibilities
therein continues.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Here's my draft report for the September board meeting. Please offer comments.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Greg
&gt;
&gt; Releases
&gt;
&gt; We have made two releases this quarter. 2.1.3 is the latest GA
&gt; release.It is a bugfix release that includes a fix to a security
&gt; problem documented here:
&gt;
&gt;    http://tiles.apache.org/framework/security/security-bulletin-1.html
&gt;
&gt; We also release the first version of the 2.2.x series. Apache Tiles
&gt; 2.2.0 is an alpha-quality release. This series adds several new
&gt; features, including:
&gt;
&gt;  * Native support for Freemarker and Velocity
&gt;  * Support for pattern matching using regular expressions.
&gt;  * OGNL support and MVEL support in Tiles definition files, when
&gt; specifying attributes and templates.
&gt;  * Ready to use configuration classes to ease startup with minimal coding.
&gt;
&gt; Additionally, 2.2.0 removes some backwards-compatibility features.
&gt; These features allowed Tiles to work with older architectures (Java
&gt; 1.4/Servlet 2.4) that are no longer supported.
&gt;
&gt; Community
&gt;
&gt; As I've noted in the past I am somewhat concerned about the stability
&gt; of the Tiles community. We have no trouble mustering up the votes
&gt; needed for releases. Development discussions continue to produce
&gt; multiple points of view. But the development and release work is still
&gt; performed by one PMC member. The truth of the matter is that if this
&gt; developer stopped working on Tiles there would be no further progress.
&gt; There is a healthy amount of traffic on the user list, but this
&gt; developer also answers the bulk of the questions there. So if he were
&gt; to leave the project and no one stepped up to take his place that
&gt; activity would come to a halt as well.
&gt;
&gt; The rest of us are still interested in the project, but it does not
&gt; affect our daily work to the extent that we are compelled to
&gt; contribute in a concrete way. Speaking for myself, I've gotten so far
&gt; away from day-to-day development of Tiles that I can't even offer
&gt; intelligent responses to user questions anymore. This is not to say
&gt; that development continues unchecked. I'm still subscribed to the
&gt; commits and issues lists and I keep track of the traffic there.
&gt;
&gt; It's my opinion that Tiles now lives in more of a niche market than it
&gt; once did. When Tiles was more tightly integrated with Struts it had a
&gt; lot more visibility. Most web developers who are still using Java MVC
&gt; web frameworks seem to be using frameworks that have more integrated
&gt; templating frameworks. Tiles is a standalone templating engine that is
&gt; not tied to a specific framework. Therefore it has less  visibility
&gt; than some of the others. There could also be the impression that Tiles
&gt; is largely "done" as far as new features are concerned and there's not
&gt; a whole lot of room for revolutionary innovation.
&gt;
&gt; I do I believe that Tiles still offers some compelling features. This
&gt; is probably a point where a corporate project would be sundowned. As
&gt; long as there is still someone around to do the work and we still have
&gt; at the people to vet the releases I'm willing to continue supporting
&gt; the project. I don't see Tiles as a candidate for the Attic at this
&gt; time, but if development stops it may be in the future. At this time I
&gt; just felt it's important for the Board to be aware of our status. It's
&gt; worth noting that we have not made a significant effort to reach out
&gt; beyond our community to seek growth.
&gt;


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<title>The future of Tiles (WAS: DRAFT September Board Report)</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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2009/9/15 Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt; So if he were
&gt; to leave the project and no one stepped up to take his place that
&gt; activity would come to a halt as well.
&gt; ...
&gt; There could also be the impression that Tiles
&gt; is largely "done" as far as new features are concerned and there's .not
&gt; a whole lot of room for revolutionary innovation.
&gt; ...
&gt; I don't see Tiles as a candidate for the Attic at this
&gt; time, but if development stops it may be in the future.

You're right, currently If I leave the project, it will be go directly
to the attic. Anyway it is not my intention to leave it, since I have
a couple of ideas that I would like to do, in particular what I am
calling "the request project" in my mind.
This project should be some sort of abstraction of all the request
classes around in different frameworks. Currently Tiles supports
Servlets, Portlet (to test), Velocity, FreeMarker, JSP. I wish to see
JSF, Struts 2 and possibly other frameworks.
This project will allow to access all scoped attributes and write
responses in a uniformed way.
This project will be a generalization of what you (Greg) had in mind
when abstracting the request to accomodate portlets too.

Another idea is the automatic generation of tags, learned from the
"tiles-template" module experience in which I noticed that most of the
logic can be abstracted from the fact that we are using a FreeMarker
"Environment", a PageContext or a Velocity Context. It seems that it
will be possible to automatically generate JSP, FreeMarker and
Velocity "tags" from methods with simple parameters.This project will
be dependent on the project that I mentioned before.

I must say that this is a "hobby" project, so there is no "need" that
I wish to satisfy, with the exception of the "fun" that I have
refactoring and writing code :-D
If this project goes to the attic, I will continue developing for it
(for fun) in a different place (read Sourceforge), but at the moment I
don't plan to.

Last but not least, Tiles is not a niche as you imagine: it seems that
it is really appreciated by Spring community, so probably it could
become a Spring project (joking... almost).

Thanks
Antonio


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<title>Re: DRAFT September Board Report</title>
<author><name>Antonio Petrelli &lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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2009/9/15 Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;:
&gt; We have made two releases this quarter. 2.1.3 is the latest GA
&gt; release.It is a bugfix release that includes a fix to a security
&gt; problem documented here:
&gt;
&gt;    http://tiles.apache.org/framework/security/security-bulletin-1.html

Just a note: the security fix was already included in 2.1.2.
For the rest, it is, sadly, ok.

Antonio


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<title>DRAFT September Board Report</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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Here's my draft report for the September board meeting. Please offer comments.

Thanks,
Greg

Releases

We have made two releases this quarter. 2.1.3 is the latest GA
release.It is a bugfix release that includes a fix to a security
problem documented here:

    http://tiles.apache.org/framework/security/security-bulletin-1.html

We also release the first version of the 2.2.x series. Apache Tiles
2.2.0 is an alpha-quality release. This series adds several new
features, including:

 * Native support for Freemarker and Velocity
 * Support for pattern matching using regular expressions.
 * OGNL support and MVEL support in Tiles definition files, when
specifying attributes and templates.
 * Ready to use configuration classes to ease startup with minimal coding.

Additionally, 2.2.0 removes some backwards-compatibility features.
These features allowed Tiles to work with older architectures (Java
1.4/Servlet 2.4) that are no longer supported.

Community

As I've noted in the past I am somewhat concerned about the stability
of the Tiles community. We have no trouble mustering up the votes
needed for releases. Development discussions continue to produce
multiple points of view. But the development and release work is still
performed by one PMC member. The truth of the matter is that if this
developer stopped working on Tiles there would be no further progress.
There is a healthy amount of traffic on the user list, but this
developer also answers the bulk of the questions there. So if he were
to leave the project and no one stepped up to take his place that
activity would come to a halt as well.

The rest of us are still interested in the project, but it does not
affect our daily work to the extent that we are compelled to
contribute in a concrete way. Speaking for myself, I've gotten so far
away from day-to-day development of Tiles that I can't even offer
intelligent responses to user questions anymore. This is not to say
that development continues unchecked. I'm still subscribed to the
commits and issues lists and I keep track of the traffic there.

It's my opinion that Tiles now lives in more of a niche market than it
once did. When Tiles was more tightly integrated with Struts it had a
lot more visibility. Most web developers who are still using Java MVC
web frameworks seem to be using frameworks that have more integrated
templating frameworks. Tiles is a standalone templating engine that is
not tied to a specific framework. Therefore it has less  visibility
than some of the others. There could also be the impression that Tiles
is largely "done" as far as new features are concerned and there's not
a whole lot of room for revolutionary innovation.

I do I believe that Tiles still offers some compelling features. This
is probably a point where a corporate project would be sundowned. As
long as there is still someone around to do the work and we still have
at the people to vet the releases I'm willing to continue supporting
the project. I don't see Tiles as a candidate for the Attic at this
time, but if development stops it may be in the future. At this time I
just felt it's important for the Board to be aware of our status. It's
worth noting that we have not made a significant effort to reach out
beyond our community to seek growth.


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<title>Re: [OT] Out for holidays</title>
<author><name>Greg Reddin &lt;gredbug@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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awesome! Have a good one.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Antonio
Petrelli&lt;antonio.petrelli@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Hello
&gt; This is just to inform you that I am taking some holidays, pc-free
&gt; holidays :-) I will come back on the 1st of September.
&gt; Salento here I come :-)
&gt;
&gt; Ciao
&gt; Antonio
&gt;


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