Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-tiles-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-tiles-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03670EC50 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31950 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2013 16:02:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tiles-dev-archive@tiles.apache.org Received: (qmail 31924 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2013 16:02:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tiles.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@tiles.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tiles.apache.org Received: (qmail 31914 invoked by uid 99); 19 Mar 2013 16:02:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:02:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of nbubna@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.181] (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:02:29 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm6so700422wib.2 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Il5KlUcNdXWR3rTOy5wQ0banhx0/dkaKRWofT6BJ15U=; b=H5TncIr0H5hjbKF4WTyfGfug7pSPRzPcKbzAiWjl2uI0Ijsqj2ll3w0c+C/448XBwV SHZ9iFf5CwNVsF6ErTsKgOfOU3/E2FzK97Z95m8/xBLiHSRVPeMIU+rNV4vNhppoMFDx /MPVApvQZXEzSuKmGKmwX2jnrCWbLqGF8o3HT7Bl0HpMMx6sP9RDpRk9PO0TK7AEMkEP WHbA2e3nivubjF6jo8qVlY8hBRxhsD9IsppXq4CpZqkSXRqhCRUUx1JCWf9BepZh0RQv 4nCRQ0PwuHXRf0/0R5rJm+qcqnU1fZVb/tgrMGWQU4kNQYwjq7YOtrgJBZVTjMYBuCYv X+vQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.37.146 with SMTP id y18mr1799549wij.10.1363708929065; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.95.230 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1363701660.24345.41.camel@dragonfly> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:02:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tiles Future Again From: Nathan Bubna To: dev@tiles.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 for holding off as long as work is planned. thx for the update mck! On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Mck wrote: > >> On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 16:40 -0500, Greg Reddin wrote: >> > What do you guys think? Should we try to re-kickstart the project or >> > retire it? >> >> I have a backlog of work around velocity and mustache that will result >> in a release or two. I'm dragging my heels in getting to it but it's >> expected this quarter. If we could keep the evaluation period open a >> little longer. >> > > No problem. As long as there is some activity, or at least planned > activity, I don't think the board will have a problem with it. And we have > another quarter before we have to report again. > > But here's the other concern: Apache is more about the community of the > projects than the substance of the projects. Apache would not like to see a > project that has only one active committer. My goal for the last couple of > years has been to help reconstitute the PMC and eventually step down. > Between you, Nicolas, and myself, we have three voting members. It would be > good to recruit a few more PMC members if we want to keep the project > going. That way, the project wouldn't depend on one or two people always > being active. > > If we don't see that happening, the other option would be to fork the > project over to GitHub or something, give it a different name, and let > Tiles go to the attic. Of course, anyone who still wanted to contribute > could do so. In fact it might be easier with a model like GitHub because > there would be a lower barrier to entry. The only difference is we wouldn't > get the legal support, etc. that Apache brings. But, in all the years this > project has existed, we haven't really needed that anyway. > > So it's something to think about. Again, we don't have to make a decision > for another quarter. But if we don't see more interest between now and then > I'd probably recommend the attic. > > Greg > > > >> ~mck >> >>