Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-tapestry-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-tapestry-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F292418AE3 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31156 invoked by uid 500); 19 Feb 2016 13:06:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tapestry-dev-archive@tapestry.apache.org Received: (qmail 31126 invoked by uid 500); 19 Feb 2016 13:06:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tapestry.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tapestry development" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tapestry.apache.org Received: (qmail 31112 invoked by uid 99); 19 Feb 2016 13:06:03 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:06:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id ADA9F18051D for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:06:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.179 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.179 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALD3Yl7_HydK for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f50.google.com (mail-vk0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C8C7C5F1E5 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id c3so73176549vkb.3 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kle95Y+s/uPmKJoeVLW0IXVSUFEj4D/Qdi9cjJsnTQo=; b=VOAeRFrRliPnwOQR714p5EAoyvEhnO6F579H/4/8XJ/Dpbz6bAH8QgQ9NiXC+XNDjZ DUfwMoae8Isa+x0C0SmsfTPH7fBiCe3NpQU6RuJ6bffkkueQNEwSUdLV0TuwNYBNGVau coOJoXjR8CjmL9yFIrmwXmfDM5GkIU+FBdALKnJQtH50DMkEKu2BpahucyYRnjMM0X1+ Alo14RG96Ex5H6CkTZ6PPASrS2hjS+OSlC0Jf4Ayvuz9fOPftpv8jcUNX7Tc019RiMIK TVbEK7Z1gC1ohNfucXPfGZWurU/aQfJsdc4LVnNraUgCGRsFVwrCmcn9zbWKS2llVmTJ iMWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kle95Y+s/uPmKJoeVLW0IXVSUFEj4D/Qdi9cjJsnTQo=; b=VXGvNol7Xf10hCEGYOhENhljzot2TGF/Zh0fYfmTuHU2SjrczgUXsw7cX2PD980Aii 7Mg9P9eXZPxQ7LprbrhcOViAvUGU/At0qQgMRbvKJ+N+Bbn9PqDmJ3nHwvhq1wjOTQF8 7bR5zOLwNQFeWziZz9kzfHODV6zIfy8B26Fpe/HrxnAbZcKdTSGpw013Jnpnd6IKrsVv 0mHFhXsGBE32/lqMR+AmrZUSuJH3IMUV6BG+0W1WMf6bcSBuVwuvsGX5q83oSBF+ipI3 bNqDvKYF3/ysAhNQMWTrQrRHh3wNp2Mt10vqdgvUlh3JvZUAxFMiZoJHvC01NbeXIj7C 6zHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORzD3Y21hJ79EZ65yd7bCINkeeRCivRMtIHFdoMdf9Xhs/vQlg3SOhTsFxP6JeYfpHgVd21Va6soV45dw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.134.4 with SMTP id i4mr10532588vkd.153.1455887153062; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.220.70 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:05:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56C70DA4.6010000@spielviel.de> References: <56C70DA4.6010000@spielviel.de> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:05:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [REPORT] Apache Tapestry - Feb 2016 From: Greg Stein To: board@apache.org Cc: Tapestry development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11440cb4976912052c1f24a8 --001a11440cb4976912052c1f24a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Ulrich St=C3=A4rk wrote= : > On 19/02/16 13:33, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Glenn Adams wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Howard Lewis Ship > >>> wrote: > >>>> ... > >>> > >>>> Any issues for the Board? > >>>> > >>>> We have begun to discuss the process of a change in project lead, = as > >>>> Howard Lewis Ship's involvement in the project has markedly > >>>> decreased over the last year or more. > >>>> > >>> > >>> There is no such thing as "project lead" at an ASF project. The > community > >>> is in charge. > >>> > >> > >> This may come from the fact that JIRA indicates a "Lead" on JIRA > projects > >> associated with ASF projects. > >> > > > > That is rather disingenuous. If you wanted to alter the "Lead" in JIRA, > > then just do so. > > > > No. You're talking about replacing the VP of Apache Tapestry, and you'r= e > > also referring to him as a "Lead". That is wrong. > > > > Else-thread, Howard says "oh, simple word typo", yet he uses the word > > "Lead" on his LinkedIn account. There is no typo occurring here. This h= as > > recurred over years. > > > > Face it: the Tapestry community believes the notion of "Lead" exists, > > contrary to Apache principles. > > Do you have any proof supporting this wild speculation and generalization= ? > E.g. from talking to > community members? Some emails maybe? Anything? > > Just because we don't care what somebody calls themselves doesn't mean we > don't know and live by > Apache principles. > For years, HLS has referred to himself as the "Lead". This is old news. So I'm unclear on the question? Do I need to pull up references for this? Or are you asking something else? -g --001a11440cb4976912052c1f24a8--