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From Lance Java <lance.j...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind
Date Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:46:00 GMT
How's about tapioca as a name suggestion? It has references to tapestry and
ioc. :)
On 21 Jul 2014 14:38, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" <thiagohp@gmail.com>

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:02:28 -0300, Lance Java <lance.java@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>  I asked this question before I was a committer and generally got good
>> feedback but it never really went anywhere.
>> I think having tapestry-ioc and tapestry (the web framework) is a bit
>> confusing. I also feel that it hinders the promotion / adoption of
>> tapestry-ioc as a standalone product.
> I'm not sure what to think about this. Mixed feelings. I've posted before
> that it would have been better for Tapestry-IoC for it to not have
> 'Tapestry' in its name and Howard agreed. But, now, I'm not sure a rename
> would do more harm or good. Tapestry 5, both web framework and IoC, had its
> first final release in April 12, 2009, five years ago. There's already lots
> of documentation and blog posts and etc about it, so a rename for avoiding
> confusion would end up causing more confusion of its own.
> I agree with Bob about not ressurecting old product names. It would add
> more confusion. HiveMind was XML-heavy, and Tapestry-IoC is XML-free. Maybe
> Tapestry 5 itself shouldn't have been named Tapestry, for the same reason,
> as it was a rewrite for scratch.
> Regarding the development cycle, I don't think right now it's a speed bump
> for Tapestry-IoC. As an IoC core (kernel?), it's a mature product. Its last
> major change I could remember was the copying of service implementation
> annotations to the corresponding service proxies. Before that, live class
> reloading for service implementations and JSR 303's @Inject support. I
> guess the features Tapestry-IoC would most benefit from now on don't need
> changes in itself, but additional packages that integrate it with other
> stuff. Of course, other people may see things differently, and I love to
> discuss it.
> Summary: I wish Tapestry-IoC had another name and that it wasn't HiveMind
> (maybe Collective?), but IMHO it's too late to rename it, even if I think
> discussing it is a very good thing.
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
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