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To: dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org From: "Niketan Pansare" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:48:36 -0700 References: X-KeepSent: FE310D20:164ABEF8-0025810C:00719E38; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: IBM Notes Release 9.0.1FP7 August 18, 2016 X-LLNOutbound: False X-Disclaimed: 3591 X-TNEFEvaluated: 1 Content-type: multipart/related; Boundary="0__=8FBB0B9FDFE218A88f9e8a93df938690918c8FBB0B9FDFE218A8" x-cbid: 17042420-0008-0000-0000-000002027F15 X-IBM-SpamModules-Scores: BY=0.150188; FL=0; FP=0; FZ=0; HX=0; KW=0; PH=0; SC=0.387138; ST=0; TS=0; UL=0; ISC=; MB=0.000003 X-IBM-SpamModules-Versions: BY=3.00006967; HX=3.00000240; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000208; SDB=6.00851925; UDB=6.00421051; IPR=6.00630762; BA=6.00005311; NDR=6.00000001; ZLA=6.00000005; ZF=6.00000009; ZB=6.00000000; ZP=6.00000000; ZH=6.00000000; ZU=6.00000002; MB=3.00015160; XFM=3.00000013; UTC=2017-04-24 20:48:33 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unsuspicious REMOTE=unsuspicious XFE=unused X-IBM-AV-VERSION: SAVI=2017-04-24 20:36:22 - 6.00006645 x-cbparentid: 17042420-1800-0000-0000-00001896BE83 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-IBM-SpamModules-Scores: X-IBM-SpamModules-Versions: BY=3.00006967; HX=3.00000240; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000208; SDB=6.00851925; UDB=6.00421051; IPR=6.00630762; BA=6.00005311; NDR=6.00000001; ZLA=6.00000005; ZF=6.00000009; ZB=6.00000000; ZP=6.00000000; ZH=6.00000000; ZU=6.00000002; MB=3.00015160; XFM=3.00000013; UTC=2017-04-24 20:48:37 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused Message-Id: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-04-24_17:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1703280000 definitions=main-1704240347 archived-at: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:48:45 -0000 --0__=8FBB0B9FDFE218A88f9e8a93df938690918c8FBB0B9FDFE218A8 Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="1__=8FBB0B9FDFE218A88f9e8a93df938690918c8FBB0B9FDFE218A8" --1__=8FBB0B9FDFE218A88f9e8a93df938690918c8FBB0B9FDFE218A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Deron, I had same doubt and hence have created the PR https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/pull/467 few days ago. We can continue to discuss this on mailing list or the PR. Even though we are not including the caffe/tensorflow project, we are depending on their input/output format (i.e. proto files). Unfortunately, both caffe and tensorflow don't have maven coordinates for their input/output formats as they tend to use C++/Python wrappers created from the proto files. Hence, we have to compile their proto files into java classes. Personally, I think we should include their licenses into our jar. TensorFlow =3D> Apache 2.0 license Caffe =3D> https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/LICENSE Thanks, Niketan Pansare IBM Almaden Research Center E-mail: npansar At us.ibm.com http://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/view.php?person=3Dus-npansar From: Deron Eriksson To: dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org Date: 04/24/2017 01:28 PM Subject: caffe and org.tensorflow licenses? Hi, I see after a recent commit that the main jar file now gets caffe and org.tensorflow packages added to it. This would tend to suggest that our main jar needs modifications to its LICENSE file (and any other artifacts containing the main jar would also need their LICENSES updated). However, I see at https://github.com/google/protobuf/blob/master/LICENSE that: "Code generated by the Protocol Buffer compiler is owned by the owner of the input file used when generating it. This code is not standalone and requires a support library to be linked with it. This support library is itself covered by the above license." So could someone tell me if caffe and tensorflow licenses now need to be added to the project? Even if they are not required, some confusion during artifact validation can occur since the project looks like it contains caffe and tensorflow classes. Deron -- Deron Eriksson Spark Technology Center http://www.spark.tc/ --1__=8FBB0B9FDFE218A88f9e8a93df938690918c8FBB0B9FDFE218A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline

Hi Deron,

I = had same doubt and hence have created the PR https://github.= com/apache/incubator-systemml/pull/467 few days= ago. We can continue to discuss this on mailing list or the PR.
Even though we are not including the caffe/tensorflow= project, we are depending on their input/output format (i.e. proto files).= Unfortunately, both caffe and tensorflow don't have maven coordinates for = their input/output formats as they tend to use C++/Python wrappers created = from the proto files. Hence, we have to compile their proto files into java= classes. Personally, I think we should include their licenses into our jar= .

TensorFlow =3D> Apache 2.0 license
Caffe =3D> https://github.com/BVLC/ca= ffe/blob/master/LICENSE

Thanks,
Niketan Pansare
IBM Almaden Research Center
E-= mail: npansar At us.ibm.com
http://res= earcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/view.php?person=3Dus-npansar
3D"InactiveDeron Eriksson = ---04/24/2017 01:28:58 PM---Hi, I see after a recent commit that the main j= ar file now gets caffe and

From: Deron Eriksson <deroneriksson@gmai= l.com>
To: dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org
Date: 04/24/2017 01:28 PM=
Subject: caffe and org.tensorflow licenses?




Hi,

I see after a recent commit that the main jar = file now gets caffe and
org.tensorflow packages added to it. This would = tend to suggest that our
main jar needs modifications to its LICENSE fil= e (and any other artifacts
containing the main jar would also need their= LICENSES updated).

However, I see at https= ://github.com/google/protobuf/blob/master/LICENSE
that:
"Code generated by the Protocol Buffer compile= r is owned by the owner
of the input file used when generating it.  = ;This code is not
standalone and requires a support library to be linked= with it.  This
support library is itself covered by the above lice= nse."

So could someone tell me if caffe and tensorflow licenses= now need to be
added to the project?

Even if they are not requir= ed, some confusion during artifact validation
can occur since the projec= t looks like it contains caffe and tensorflow
classes.

Deron
<= br>
--
Deron Eriksson
Spark Technology Center
= http://www.spark.tc/<= /font>



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