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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Madison Myers wrote: > Although this is unavoidable, if the projects are closely associated with > SystemML it might be better to have it collocated in the project, as it > might make it simpler for users to discover and consistently use. > > +1 > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Luciano Resende > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Madison Myers >> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Thought it may be a good idea to implement some measures on getting new >> > users to adopt SystemML. At the moment, I feel there is a big learning >> > curve and that we could make it easier through clearer tutorials and >> > examples, a better user experience on the website (continuing the >> process >> > of making it better), more articles that explain SystemML at a high >> level >> > and how to use it/why it's important. I also think we should get more >> > questions and answers on Stack Overflow so that overcoming issues is a >> bit >> > easier for new users. Longer-term I'd also love to see a course taught >> > online such as on Coursera as well as in university classrooms so that >> > people in the field adopt SystemML more early-on. >> > >> > >> +1 >> >> >> > Also Deron and Mike had some interesting suggestions about visibility. >> They >> > suggested having projects using SystemML on personal Github accounts as >> > well as mentioning SystemML as a skill on LinkedIn. >> > >> > >> Although this is unavoidable, if the projects are closely associated with >> SystemML it might be better to have it collocated in the project, as it >> might make it simpler for users to discover and consistently use. >> >> >> > Would love to know if others agree and/or have suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > -- >> > *Madison J. Myers* >> > *UC Berkeley, Master of Information & Data Science '17* >> > >> > *King's College London, MA Political Science '14* >> > *New York University, BA Political Science '12* >> > >> > - >> > LinkedIn >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Luciano Resende >> http://twitter.com/lresende1975 >> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ >> > > > > -- > *Madison J. Myers* > *UC Berkeley, Master of Information & Data Science '17* > > *King's College London, MA Political Science '14* > *New York University, BA Political Science '12* > > - > LinkedIn > > -- *Madison J. Myers* *UC Berkeley, Master of Information & Data Science '17* *King's College London, MA Political Science '14* *New York University, BA Political Science '12* - LinkedIn --94eb2c0c0232e83ae4053e4b8dde--