Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B35200BB3 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 00:51:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 78849160AF7; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 971B1160AE5 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 00:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 27195 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2016 22:51:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@systemml.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27180 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2016 22:51:53 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 857F01A088A for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.5 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLlVMxKF7WOy for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a2nlsmtp01-03.prod.iad2.secureserver.net (a2nlsmtp01-03.prod.iad2.secureserver.net [198.71.225.37]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D2D3C5FADC for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout01.c02.mtsvc.net ([64.207.129.75]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with SMTP id wd6MbwIBRHZ5pwd6NbyUua; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:43:19 -0700 Received: from cl03.gs02.gridserver.com ([64.13.232.12]) by mailout01.c02.mtsvc.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bwd6L-0002qj-B4 for dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:43:17 -0700 Received: from mail-qk0-f173.google.com ([209.85.220.173]:33298) by cl03.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bwd6K-000617-HE for dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:43:18 -0700 Received: by mail-qk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id n189so11090110qke.0 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfjwQrBuJznL1WUNVY98owcVEkmSEp9C4RH9AbSde/v5+U+EaSjFpwJ37P9twlO0YkCAg7mjQRwtsrWlw== X-Received: by 10.55.128.129 with SMTP id b123mr2947503qkd.69.1476830595760; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.169.88 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:42:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jeremy Anderson Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:42:35 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting new users to adopt SystemML To: dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c06652e0dcf53053f2b6b42 X-MT-INTERNAL-ID: AAC8AA7FE19FE3EB20004526039E965974CA63FC X-Authenticated-User: 46358 jeremy@objectadjective.com X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCFGYXMrQ/j+0rf0NDYgN+qL+WB+mOlBkYh9J45g4PW3G4vfJ4H1MJBYJ0uULIHwXvfNymft7ANaEp2zBLxGn+rV5GqiIxO0AMUkkrN4bBi53PQuEG1r 4JsGXsTBId4tklGKC91QEhuCCPGeuMRLkceK8Tq8Z976Qxqqh+PAxp6xBja325uzGqY8reuCUzkQZqmhN9e470gdPOfj01F6MxY= archived-at: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:51:56 -0000 --94eb2c06652e0dcf53053f2b6b42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 all ........................... Jeremy Anderson https://twitter.com/ObjectAdjective http://www.linkedin.com/in/objectadjective On 18 October 2016 at 11:25, Renee Mascarinas wrote: > +1 Thanks Madison! > > I agree with everything. As a designer, it's been really hard to > understand the value of SystemML without case studies. There's so much > claims out there, but without real use cases, it's difficult to understand > and promote when there aren't tangible proof from existing users. > > For visibility, I think it's a great idea to add SystemML as a skill on > LinkedIn and posting questions and answers on Stack Overflow. From our > research findings, the latter is a must for troubleshooting for data > scientist, second to Google. > > Renee > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Jeremy Anderson < > jeremy@objectadjective.com> > wrote: > > > +1 Madison > > > > I started started doing some user research with a few other designers. > > We're looking for patterns and pain points around adoption and use of > > SystemML. We'd love to share our findings so far to continue this > > discussion and get thoughts and feedback from everyone. I think clear > > tutorials and site architecture will help address some of the concerns > > we're hearing and could improve adoption. I love the idea of generating > > more articles and content on Stack Overflow. All of this would be really > > helpful in increasing awareness and building community. > > > > We're synthesizing our research so far and we'll share it here. Thanks > for > > starting this thread! > > > > Jeremy > > > > ........................... > > > > Jeremy Anderson > > https://twitter.com/ObjectAdjective > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/objectadjective > > > > > > On 6 October 2016 at 10:33, Madison Myers > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Thought it may be a good idea to implement some measures on getting new > > > users to adopt SystemML. At the moment, I feel there is a big learning > > > curve and that we could make it easier through clearer tutorials and > > > examples, a better user experience on the website (continuing the > process > > > of making it better), more articles that explain SystemML at a high > level > > > and how to use it/why it's important. I also think we should get more > > > questions and answers on Stack Overflow so that overcoming issues is a > > bit > > > easier for new users. Longer-term I'd also love to see a course taught > > > online such as on Coursera as well as in university classrooms so that > > > people in the field adopt SystemML more early-on. > > > > > > Also Deron and Mike had some interesting suggestions about visibility. > > They > > > suggested having projects using SystemML on personal Github accounts as > > > well as mentioning SystemML as a skill on LinkedIn. > > > > > > Would love to know if others agree and/or have suggestions. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > *Madison J. Myers* > > > *UC Berkeley, Master of Information & Data Science '17* > > > > > > *King's College London, MA Political Science '14* > > > *New York University, BA Political Science '12* > > > > > > - > > > LinkedIn > > > > > > --94eb2c06652e0dcf53053f2b6b42--