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From "Hubert, Eric" <>
Subject RE: [VOTE] Release Synapse-2.0.0 (Take2)
Date Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:43:54 GMT
Answers inline. Not every statement was meant to describe a „problem“, I simply always
described what I did and what happened. Unexpected behaviour is separately mentioned…

1) Synapse startup test with custom 1.2 config

- config has been put into repository/conf/synapse-config as it seems to got ignored in repository/conf

I think this is by design and we need to document this on the Upgrading guide.

- Synapse does not startup due to a problem in the config (e.g. missing registry implementation
class on the classpath)

I will have a look at this, I guess this needs to be fixed if there is an issue, can you please
give me a small config bit to re-produce this issue? may be you are using a WSO2 ESB registry
class shipped with WSO2 which of course is not available in synapse. :-(
Yes, my aim was to test a failure case. So it was absolutely expected that this fails. No
issue at all!

- Unexpected behaviour: Although Synapse detects the problems, tries to perform a clean shutdown,
it “keeps hanging” and does not return to the shell with an error return value

Can you please attach the log for this and steps to re-produce, this again I would like to
fix depending on the complexity of the issue... and if this gets slipped from 2.0.0 I suggest
immediately spinning a 2.0.1 to fix this and any other this sort of issues from the 2.0.0
branch. WDYT?
Yes, I personally do not consider this critical – it is simply only not nice. By the way,
the same condition can be reached with many different issues in a user’s config. Reproduction
is easy. Just specify any class name non existing in the classpath e.g. as the registry provider

2) Migration Tool

- executing the migration tool expects a config in repository/conf (former config location)

If you type help for the migration tool sh you will find that it is the default location the
script looks for but you can specify your own location too.
Maybe it would be slightly better if an no arg execution outputs a usage instead of assuming
the default location and immediately starting to do something. But this is obviously a matter
of taste…

- old copy copied there and restarted

- migration tool modifies config

- Unexpected behaviour:

- after migration config stays in repository/conf and needs to be manually copied to repository/conf/synapse-conf
to be recognized

This again is the default location, assuming that you are running the migration tool for an
old configuration, but you could of course give the new location to be saved after migrating
the configuration. I guess we need a little bit more documentation around the migration tool.

- migration tool mistakenly removes namespaces (destroying the config), e.g.
    <code xmlns:tns="" value="tns:Receiver"/>
--> <syn:code value="tns:Receiver" /> resulting in startup issues

This we need to fix for this release, I will work on this.
Great, I’d also consider this to be a blocker as the migration tool can convert a working
config into a non-working one. I have not checked whether a backup is saved somewhere…

- migration tool removes indentation at the beginning of each xml element

This is a known issue, but I agree needs to be fixed, since it is not critical I would live
with this for the 2.0.0, but definitely a candidate for the next version, so we need to raise
an issue ticket on the synapse JIRA for this.
 Agreed, if no one beats me I can do this later today…

3) Traditional config in single file versus multi file configuration

- Unexpected behaviour:

  - replacing dummy synapse.xml with old (converted) config is not enough, it results in errors
if main and/or fault sequences are used (as the must exist only once), sequence files need
to be removed

from subdirectories

Yes, this I agree with, but cannot do much I guess again need to explain this on the Upgrading
Is the reason for this, that no concept has precedence over the other? One can mix both approaches
as desired? If so I fully understand, but documentation is the least we should do. I would
also vote for a prominent link to the Upgrading section in the documentation right from the
front page. May under what’s new or so…

4) Usage of custom mediators / Site Documentation “Upgrading”

- In the docu I could not quickly locate a document summarizing the steps which need to be
done to upgrade custom mediators according to API changes (I received some AbstractMethodError).
I did not check the mediator sources against the current libraries to find out what is no
longer compiling…. Anyway a quick summary of API changes would be nice. As long as I haven’t
check the points which do not compile I cannot say for sure, whether those problems are due
to the fact that public methods not considered to be part of the public API have been used
on our end (which is not unlikely at all).

I agree, will try to add more on the API changes, at least for the mediator API.

From: Ruwan Linton [<>]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:04 AM

Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse-2.0.0 (Take2)

So the Sandesha module can be easily removed if you are not doing any reliable messaging stuff.
Just need to delete the file from the repository/modules directory. I would even remove this
error message from the custom build of Sandesha2 as we any way seem to go for the 3rd round
of voting. :-)

Eric, I would like to wait for your feedback to do the 3rd RC. So take your time, but report
us any critical issue as soon as you get to them. May not need to be the complete list, you
can report them one by one as and when you find those, so that we can fix them if needs to
be and be ready for your next round of the feedback. BTW: must say that we really appreciate
your feedback.


Ruwan Linton
Software Architect & Product Manager, WSO2 ESB;
WSO2 Inc.;

Lean . Enterprise . Middleware

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