Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE1481090C for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88000 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2013 16:19:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 87927 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2013 16:19:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 87882 invoked by uid 99); 12 Dec 2013 16:19:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:19:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of lesmikesell@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.41] (HELO mail-qa0-f41.google.com) (209.85.216.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:19:02 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j5so5935577qaq.7 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GjtAO6Td+vkKP8Ly9RTjlOi/OzjHG3yBuPos4V2OCSo=; b=RImCOLkp3VKizNYapBG4Kf6sO/PhSiF913rwM+pk1x0+DVwP86C4rJ2293RrTRwRkR dYLSQYrfQvQ9PxXYYyzLCT8ujN5jEFkp94fB5Sre0a7eaA0HfPQkGxcw6SrZQ9YVlQOb jYsY4UoVJT+yuE8nM/Aa2fThmdG7S1+IUe91R7n8MibXRsdaOr+g/K/7nUzJCdhNPdRF asYNk/+nngXha+DlM0oXMJUVcCWE6eA0j6DXUG28GwlfZZq5dewivrrWjXstzJV+LAUU q+HDxblXekpP4LMxJKcW/S7SomDbcwsrcNo5wRH54ylJUNxaqJ0LN8MWAUQ6VyemqWdj 2Nrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.17.196 with SMTP id q4mr14895485qed.31.1386865121581; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.37.245 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52A989BF.5070203@wandisco.com> References: <6dd4da1c7e5f4a088f2dab506d14d907@DM2PR05MB797.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> <79b206f1bd45430a83dc13ca7906819d@DM2PR05MB797.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> <52A8B995.2020901@wandisco.com> <52A8BD37.6090909@wandisco.com> <8FA155C9-239E-4684-BF1D-5E05585CC6CA@ryandesign.com> <52A989BF.5070203@wandisco.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:18:41 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update-Only Checkout Enhancement From: Les Mikesell To: =?UTF-8?Q?Branko_=C4=8Cibej?= Cc: Ryan Schmidt , Bob Archer , Subversion Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Branko =C4=8Cibej wro= te: > >> Some things... But not the things you really need to complete any >> amount of actual work - like updates and commits. > > You're forgetting diff. If you use Subversion daily, you've become so > used to it being local that you can't appreciate how slow it would be > without locally cached pristine copies. But (a) it is trivial to make your own snapshot copy of file versions if you expect to need them (as you must anyway for any offline state except 'as checked out' and 'completely current'. And (b), I'm as likely to want to diff against a different branch or someone else's subsequent commit as my own pristine version (and no, that isn't unreasonably slow...). Also, most of this discussion is related to scenarios where active development is not happening - like the jenkins build server example. > Anyway, this thread has gone way off any kind of reasonable topic. The > short answer to the original poster is that Subversion is not intended > to be a replacement for rsync. You can take that as a hint as to what > the solution to your problem might be. But it _was_ intended to be a replacement for cvs, which has nowhere near the client-side resource requirements. --=20 Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com