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From Peter Bittner <>
Subject Re: Default log file locations
Date Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:40:08 GMT
I'm sorry!

Am Do., 27. Juni 2019 um 21:55 Uhr schrieb Mark Phippard <>:
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Peter Bittner <> wrote:
> Hi there!
> In my day job I'm helping to get applications from traditional
> environments running in cloud environments. Cloud native applications
> are just "normal" applications, but there are a few properties that
> they should satisfy (apart from resiliency and scalability).
> For logging this boils down to what is prescribed by the 12-factor
> app: The log output should be a continuous stream, i.e. simply log to
> the terminal.
> Now, as of today, at least on Debian based container images, the
> behavior of Apache is to write to /var/log/apache2/access.log and
> /var/log/apache2/error.log by default. We try to compensate this by
> making those files symbolic links to /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr.
> We're doing this also, because there seem to be cases when a log entry
> is written _before_ it is configured via the Apache configuration
> file.
> From my perspective it would be advantageous to have Apache write to
> the terminal by default (i.e. no hardcoded log file locations) and
> allow to override this behavior via the Apache configuration file.
> Is there any reason why the default behavior is not that way yet?
> I assume you meant to send this to the dev@ list for the httpd project?
> Mark

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