From dev-return-33887-apmail-subversion-dev-archive=subversion.apache.org@subversion.apache.org Tue Sep 15 14:52:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D313186EF for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24907 invoked by uid 500); 15 Sep 2015 14:51:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 24858 invoked by uid 500); 15 Sep 2015 14:51:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 24848 invoked by uid 99); 15 Sep 2015 14:51:55 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:51:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 5C6F5C0041 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:51:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.12 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=visualsvn.com Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id peNnkhOgK7y2 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 1275D2156C for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbvu2 with SMTP id vu2so14463340lbb.0 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:51:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=visualsvn.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=envSDeWrMQkOak5dLpgKjlpgIFPedwnu0doSt04iovY=; b=CJwDvqILHSt4o44ySgKZ87G5mcZ+2VbNAjlRueg6RpVzuedfRMcnm97DOF1Xf7PE2k cEAmWV6xro1ZolAESgjc6ntjzLoHj8ip2YD0LCB68ozT/cvxic4QiSCYRR7Ec5N6hRms diDwIFb75PW2ZAtkn4Z9aQ0SJkZw0Z9T8ccck= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=envSDeWrMQkOak5dLpgKjlpgIFPedwnu0doSt04iovY=; b=dM2NpWjv8WUWSRwusrs4TU2/WMcTbRAxkWULkgCcSK1SeP6p3jPNogXaAnayotysK+ cc/XRp4gVSh/mecMOSLZe6dfYpeQgTwctUMuNMbd8yavr6lUg4g4E31hLC0ROxhjmPts DmNJ/iX+prs8I93aYuA0BPnPRSsi4cI28tONrsTGNe4UtC2n3EcD35FE1RgYpJ1nhgtg dl9r0f32bKXifqIO3grgpoDdnq9iTNnPLfYFAWxrUzw4vOCS9zbJs9a2+JnrFQ4CWYf7 YIPaAcH88+uz9WEKgMwj3harRQ4QXCbEkcnPkkA74XB3KQ7NuBBp/LxyUWOf2d2ewgTq DmQA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmq8hJ0BHcZaLpYdVFH4ZJoab8K5ePZQcViNvaAeVgBRAI/jTkkCqYV3GiIfat0SlwrEjiO X-Received: by 10.112.51.142 with SMTP id k14mr20306505lbo.76.1442328701363; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:51:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.170.66 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:51:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <001201d0ef9d$31ef3a90$95cdafb0$@qqmail.nl> From: Ivan Zhakov Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:51:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating Subversion issues to ... To: Greg Stein Cc: Bert Huijben , Mark Phippard , Subversion Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15 September 2015 at 14:40, Mark Phippard wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Here at the hackathon in Berlin we are discussing issue trackers, and mo= re >> particular how we should eventually move our issues to ASF infrastructur= e. >> An old TODO. >> >> >> >> Ivan just converted the data of the much smaller Serf issuetracker to Ji= ra >> for the Apache Serf project, and he offers to perform the migration for >> Subversion too. >> >> >> >> >> >> I think we really have 3 options: >> >> [ ] Keep our issues on Tigris >> >> [ ] Migrate our issues to a new Bugzilla instance hosted by ASF infra >> >> [ ] Migrate to the standard ASF Jira installation >> >> >> >> In Jira we can keep our existing issuenumbers, while for Bugzilla we wou= ld >> need a separate instance. >> >> >> >> Personally I would choose the third option if we aim to keep as much >> history as possible (including ascii art and attachments) available afte= r >> the migration. The information in our issue database is just too valuabl= e to >> lose=E2=80=A6. Even if it will take a few more years to get there. >> >> >> >> Bert > > > +1 on migration. > > I would bias the decision in favor of doing the migration over trying to > solve every problem and letting another year go by. > > If Ivan has a working migration for Jira then +1 for that. > > I think it is a mistake to get hung up on these other issues that are > trivial in my opinion. Monospace vs proportional -- I do not believe any= one > really cares. Just let the ascii art get messed up. Old links not worki= ng > ... not a problem you can solve. Just move on. > > I would just migrate the data to Jira, not try to solve all these problem= s > and move forward. I have seen zero evidence in the years I have been > involved in this project that anyone really cares about the issue tracker= . > We go out of our way to actively discourage people from using it. To bog > down on migration over relatively small problems would just be a waste of > time and effort. It sounds like you already will be accomplishing a lot = by > keeping issue numbers roughly the same. > > Take that victory and get this done. > It seems people generally support idea to move to ASF JIRA. I already have some data converted and want to perform *test* import to ASF JIRA. Just to see how it will like. Should I request ASF INFRA team do this for us or such request supposed to be created by PMC chair? --=20 Ivan Zhakov