Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64DDCBDEA for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 03:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32554 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 03:07:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-dev-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 32294 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 03:07:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 32250 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2012 03:07:52 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:07:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.125.82.47] (HELO mail-ww0-f47.google.com) (74.125.82.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:07:45 +0000 Received: by wgbdr10 with SMTP id dr10so19837347wgb.16 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:07:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.207.196 with SMTP id fz4mr54311081wbb.2.1325646443310; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.109.234 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:07:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325631276.22763.140661018896757@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1325631276.22763.140661018896757@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:07:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are you brave enough to manage a Subversion release? From: Hyrum K Wright To: Daniel Shahaf Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrot= e: > First of all, thanks for your tireless RM work over the last few years. Thanks. Although not without its headaches, I've gotten more out of the experience than I have given. > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 16:11, Hyrum K Wright wrote: >> written a lot of tooling and docs surrounding our release process. >> I'd like to give somebody relatively unfamiliar with that environment >> a chance to go through the process, to ensure all the required >> information is properly recorded. =C2=A0I'm happy to do some handholding= as > ... >> responsiveness to the community, familiarity with the project >> guidelines, and the ability and patience to herd cats / push string / > > Secondly, as you say, there are two separate parts to the RM role: one > is the technical part --- creating tags, signing tarballs, sending > release announcement emails --- but the other is the community part --- > perhaps most obviously sending the periodical "Shall we roll a release > next week?" mails. Correct, and there's no inalterable law that dictates that these have to be the same person. Historically for Subversion they have been, though, and given the size of our development community, I think it's a good pattern to maintain. (Although the technical bits can become increasingly scripted.) -Hyrum --=20 uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy http://www.uberSVN.com/