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From "Don Brown" <donald.br...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Struts2, Shale, Seam, pure JSF - what to use?
Date Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:09:41 GMT
Off topic, but AFAIK, Shale doesn't depend on any specific JSF
implementation.  It's goal is to "fill in the gaps" in the JSF
spec/framework for the user.

Don

On 12/19/06, robin bajaj <robinbajaj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> May I ask a corollary question in this context.
>
> What is the current status of Shale, is it build on top of SUN's JSF Ref.
> Implementation or MyFaces
> or Can I just use any JSF distro with Shale.
>
> Thanks for your replies in advance,
> regards
> robin
>
> On 12/19/06, Don Brown <donald.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It isn't an either/or question.  You can use JSF actions, components,
> > and configuration in a Struts 2 app, using the Struts 2 JSF Plugin.
> > If you prefer an action-centric design, but want to use JSF
> > components, then it is worth looking into.  If you want a pure JSF
> > approach, especially if you have your eye on the JSF tools, then
> > MyFaces or Shale would be worth looking at.
> >
> > See also: http://cwiki.apache.org/WW/javaserver-faces.html
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On 12/19/06, Piero Sartini <lists@pierosartini.de> wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > the last days I've read a lot about web frameworks in java. And the more
> > I
> > > read, the more questions I have. Just writing this down, maybe someone
> > has
> > > some thoughts that can help me.
> > >
> > > My problem is simple, or lets say it should be simple: What webframework
> > is a
> > > good choice to start a new web application?
> > >
> > > After all, JSF seams to be popular, it is supported by big vendors and
> > it is a
> > > standard. My problem with JSF is that its way too basic in my eyes. It
> > does
> > > not give me best practices, its just there and says: "use me". But it
> > does
> > > not give me an idea how it is used best. But maybe I missed that. My
> > feeling
> > > is that its a core technology like jsp ... someone should build a
> > framework
> > > with it ...
> > >
> > > I am missing this "framework" around JSF that does speed up development.
> > Is
> > > shale meant to be this framework? It matured a lot since I last looked
> > at it.
> > > But for me, it looks like its not really accepted - maybe I am wrong. Is
> > > shale what I am searching for?
> > >
> > > There is JBoss Seam. I don't want to use jboss AS and not sure if its
> > the best
> > > choice..
> > >
> > > I looked at struts2 and it "feels" like it could be what I searched for.
> > There
> > > is good documentation, many examples, an maven archetype, lots of users
> > and
> > > the possibility to use third party technologies like freemarker. But my
> > > problem is that I am not sure if its not better to use JSF to be
> > compatible
> > > with future technologies. There are a lot of ajax-components for
> > example, and
> > > we can wait that a lot of third party libraries and tools will be
> > > available...
> > >
> > > Is there a simple answer?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >         Piero
> > >
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