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From "Dakota Jack" <>
Subject Re: I Apologize
Date Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:14:42 GMT
Mahaul Jive Velcro,

You are not even close to anything that was actually discussed.  If you are
careful hanging around these straw men you are going to get one of those
itches the toadies on this list talk about scratching.  Why don't you just
answer the question?  Do you have an answer?  Why go down this route?  You
cannot blame people for getting a little peeoed at people who rant at a
legitimate question being "wildly" irrlevant (Craig) which encourages this
sort of drivel and nothing is done by the Struts leaders to encourage an
honest discussion of the failure of Struts.  Why not?  Would it be a bad
thing to find out what needs to be changed, other than the code?

On 3/28/06, Michael Jouravlev <> wrote:
> On 3/27/06, Jonathan Revusky <> wrote:
> > Well, your taste is questionable. You guys think that Struts 1.x is good
> > code. The Struts developers don't even think that.
> Struts 1.x sucks compared to WebWork 2, I think everybody got it.
> Actually, you are not the first who is saying this. Jason kept
> preaching this matra for at least two years already, we got used to
> this ;-)
> I think what would be really educational, is comparing WebWork 2 and
> Stripes. I think they are quite comparable. If WebWork was started in
> attempt to improve Struts, then Stripes was started in attempt to
> improve both Struts and WebWork. Are WebWork 2 and Stripes both "good
> code"?
> Michael.
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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
~Dakota Jack~

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