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From "Sng Wee Jim" <>
Date Sun, 08 May 2005 09:38:34 GMT

You may want to try Netbeans 4.1 RC2. Refactoring still not as strong as
Eclipse but most of the stuff you need is out-of-the-box: JSP syntax
support, tomcat, iplanet app server etc, so there is less plug-in to

- Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy []
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:04 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: ANOTHER IDE

On 04/05/05 18:25 Dave Newton wrote:
> Except for the crappy editor in Eclipse (a programmer's editor without

> macros?!?!?!) it seems to do a pretty good job with the addition of
> MyEclipse (~$30/yearly) although I've seen a few minor complaints and
> bugs. Has the same (or similar, perhaps slightly less functional?)
> features: XML editing and tag completion for XML and JSP, code
> completion inside JSP, Pretty Good refactoring support.

I used to code with emacs, without code completion or debugging or
whatever, and I managed fine - now I code in Eclipse and I have all the
whizz bang plug-ins like maven and cvs and xmlspy and I've got the
Problems List which highlights the code causing errors, plus I can
refactor, BUT.... I waste so much time, hours and hours when it goes

Sometimes it will never stop and I am doomed to have these time-wasting
issues with Eclipse plug-ins not working together, or just not
installing, or Java 5 bugs or whatever. Progress I guess.

I'd like to know whether these kinds of issues affect IDEA users. When
was the last time you spent a whole morning trying to get tomcat to run
inside Eclipse, or an hour a day for a week fighting to get Maven menus
to appear?

This must be the bleeding edge, right?


PS what does myeclipse do?

struts 1.2 + tomcat 5.0.19 + java 1.5.0
Linux 2.4.20 Debian

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