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From "Frank W. Zammetti" <fzli...@omnytex.com>
Subject Re: RES: AW: JSF (the same old stuff?). We prefer Laszlo + Struts
Date Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:15:38 GMT
Did you provide a link for Laszlo?  I might have missed it.

I've frankly never heard of it, I'd like to take a look.

-- 
Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief Software Architect
Omnytex Technologies
http://www.omnytex.com

On Tue, April 5, 2005 2:52 pm, Paulo Alvim said:
> Thanks for your help, Frank...
>
> My English is not so good - but that's exactly what I'd like to say.
> (you know - after 20 years migrating to lots of tools - COBOL, UNIX, RAD
> C/S, Java App Server, J2EE, Open-Source, we know that, at the end,
> delivery
> value to the end customers has to be the main goal).
>
> In our opinion, JSF isn't that good...specially if we already have an
> exceptional alternative such as Laszlo.
>
> But what you guys think about Laszlo + Struts? Is there anyone thinking
> about target Struts 1.3 or greater to integrate "out-of-box" with Laszlo?
> Did anyone post about that before?
>
> After our research we're sure that it would be a very strong alternative
> to
> JSF, because it would be focused in immediate results to the end
> customers!
>
> Alvim.
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:fzlists@omnytex.com]
> Enviada em: terça-feira, 5 de abril de 2005 13:39
> Para: Struts Users Mailing List
> Cc: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Assunto: Re: AW: JSF (the same old stuff?). We prefer Laszlo + Struts
>
>
> On Tue, April 5, 2005 12:16 pm, Leon Rosenberg said:
>> Aehm, could you please explain what exactly the "high level RAD+Html
>> approach" is?
>>
>> Regards
>> Leon
>>
>>
>> P.S. RAD as in Rapid Application Development?
>
> I think that is indeed what he is referring to.  I could probably just let
> him answer for himself, but what would be the fun in that?!? :)
>
> JSF for instance (as well as ASP.Net) were created with the idea of being
> tool-centric in that they generally envision development being done in a
> drag-and-drop RAD-type IDE environment.  Not that you HAVE to do it that
> way of course, but they started with that as a goal.
>
> In such an approach, you tend to write very little HTML yourself and
> instead let the tool (or whatever is processing your pages' macro
> definition) generate the final markup.  Note that this is even moreso than
> JSPs and taglibs and such which, of course, are themselves rendering the
> final markup too, but with JSF and other such platforms it's meant to be
> even more abstract: drag a Select Component onto the canvas and that will
> result in a bunch of HTML that you'll possibly never see or care about.
>
> --
> Frank W. Zammetti
> Founder and Chief Software Architect
> Omnytex Technologies
> http://www.omnytex.com
>
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