Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 52890 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2005 15:20:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2005 15:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 48561 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2005 15:19:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-user-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 48539 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2005 15:19:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Users Mailing List" Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Delivered-To: mailing list user@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 48519 invoked by uid 99); 2 Feb 2005 15:19:58 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,URIBL_SBL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of jak-struts-user@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.2 as permitted sender) Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:19:56 -0800 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CwMGW-00089A-8q for user@struts.apache.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:18:06 +0100 Received: from adsl-68-94-25-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net ([68.94.25.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:18:00 +0100 Received: from vin by adsl-68-94-25-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:18:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: user@struts.apache.org From: Vic Subject: Re: Struts 2.0 or Struts 0.0? [or Struts 1.42?] Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:18:10 -0600 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <20052165013.077705@pc18> <4200E50E.8070601@kligerweiss.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-94-25-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <4200E50E.8070601@kligerweiss.com> Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=8.505, required 6, AWL -4.36, BAYES_00 -2.60, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP 1.25, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC 3.74, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR 4.40, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL 0.09, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 1.99, URIBL_SBL 4.00) X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: ssssssss X-MailScanner-From: jak-struts-user@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: user@struts.apache.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I know you asked Ted/Craig but Tapestry is a Apache project, like Struts, a good framework that is View centric, home page says: " Tapestry is an alternative to scripting environments such as JavaServer Pages or Velocity" Accroding to latest "market share" reportring (by Raible) Struts is like 70% of market share. (Having said that, I wish that people that use Struts becuase it's popular go away, one should use own judgment; if everyone used EJB, would you use that too? or would you jump of a bridge? Waren Buffet has a book and a chapter on Lemmings) Even if Struts loses 10% every year, that would make it say 5% or 3%, or.... 1% say in many years. Tapestry, JSF, WebWorks, Symphony, etc. are all fine comunities that have that kind of a market share, so it would not be bad at all. (and then all the questions about is this the most pouplar one would go away). WHICH ONE FITS YOU NEEDS BEST BASED ON YOUR ANAYLSIS? (It's a bit like sayind what method call you you call in your code? I'ts up to you). Alex Kravets wrote: > Ted, Graig, > 've read some posts/blogs where people who've used Struts and now use > Tapestry say that they will never go back to Struts again. see above. If you have similar needs as them maybe you should do that. In 2000, http://barracudamvc.org/Barracuda/index.html would say they are better and Turbine did; there was allways competition. > Is this what Struts Shale tries to change/disprove? I hope not!!! I feel like I am the old Lakers, #1, and everyone hates you. And yes, I hate the Lakers. :-P .V -- Forums, Boards, Blogs and News in RiA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@struts.apache.org