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From "Mike Jasnowski" <mjasn...@bea.com>
Subject RE: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags
Date Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:33:04 GMT
I would think you'd run into that possibility with either Struts or JSTL.
Our designers love JSTL because it's succinct and a bit more obvious in what
object.property you are working with. But it's sometimes up to me and other
engineers to steer the designers away from bad practices.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Lowe [mailto:mark.lowe@talk21.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags


I started using JSTL but found that it encouraged site builders to
start embedding logic in JSP's. While I can see that JSLT is more
powerful, isn't it true to say that it encourages breaking with the
view-controller demarcation?

I find the struts tags on the other hand, used with zero scriptlet
tolerance, forces you to do all the work in your action servlets.

I'm open to views against mine, and I also wouldn't dismiss the advise
of the folks who developed struts, but whenever I read "use JSLT" it
seems to me  a step backwards.

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Hookom, Jacob wrote:

>
> Start using it and you will :-).  The expression language is the best
> thing since sliced bread.
>
> David
> I agree, I'm even using the EL parser to do stuff on completely
> different
> layers for scripting logic.  Also, you can VERY easily use JSTL's
> parsing
> objects in your own tags to make them a little more flexible.
> Jacob
>
>>
>> - Keith
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:51 AM
>> To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags
>>
>>
>> I don't have any documentation but the only Struts taglibs I use are
>> html
>> and tiles.  I replaced my usage of the bean tags with the
>> <fmt:message>
>> tag and the Struts logic tags are all replaced with a combination of
>> the
>> <c:if> and <c:forEach> tags plus the expression language.
>>
>> The JSPs are remarkably easy to maintain and debug using this strategy
>> because there aren't any scriptlets or complicated business logic in
>> them.
>>
>> David
>>
>> --- "Kamholz, Keith   (corp-staff) USX" <kkamholz@moog.com> wrote:
>>> I'd be interested in finding out about this too.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: White, Joshua A (HTSC, CASD)
>> [mailto:Joshua.White@thehartford.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:30 AM
>>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Using JSTL tags instead of Struts tags
>>>
>>>
>>> A previous thread had encouraged me to look into JSTL.  It looks like
>>> there
>>> are several tags which I could use instead of Struts tags.  Has
>>> anyone
>>> come
>>> across any documentation about experiences doing this (benefits,
>>> drawbacks,
>>> caveats)?  Anyone care to share their experience?
>>>
>>> Joshua
>>>
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