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From "Hue Holleran" <h...@softwareskills.net>
Subject RE: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles
Date Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:54:45 GMT
>> Opera suppports the w3c standards
more closely than the other browsers. <<

That's probably the problem! No, seriously there are some dirty tricks used
just to get the site up and running - before a proper review to ensure it is
compliant. Last time I tried Opera it was not displaying nicely - lines very
thick I think (but does not occur on IE or Moz) - I was just warning in case
I got emails from anyone pointing out Opera may look strange. Rightly or
wrongly we get to checking Opera last - but it will displays correctly in
Opera before it's in production.

H.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
Sent: 19 February 2003 17:45
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles


Why do you need special stuff for Opera?  Opera suppports the w3c standards
more closely than the other browsers.

David



>From: "Hue Holleran" <hueh@softwareskills.net>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles
>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:34:29 -0000
>
>Sorry to all who can't access - I've had a few emails! The site is actually
>hosted on a high port number that some firewalls/corporate proxies will not
>connect to. Once in production it will be on good ol' port 80.
>
>Also the mods for Opera have not been done yet - so Opera may display a bit
>strangely but again will be fine in production. IE and Moz are fine if you
>can connect!
>
>H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:Simon.Chappell@landsend.com]
>Sent: 19 February 2003 16:22
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles
>
>
>I can't get the site to display at all, and i've tried both IE and Mozilla.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hue Holleran [mailto:hueh@softwareskills.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:20 AM
> >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> >Subject: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles
> >
> >
> >Choice of colours was the customer's - they picked colours
> >they felt would
> >be eye-catching (damaging) (!)
> >
> >You should all feel great as struts developers - although this
> >will not be
> >surprising to the initiated - to know you've completely
> >usurped Microsoft
> >ASP and the shiny new Microsoft ASP.NET as the chosen
> >development framework.
> >
> >Not a decision that was taken lightly - functioning versions
> >were built in
> >both ASP and ASP.NET (and in vanilla JSP and initially PHP).
> >Decision was
> >based on struts reducing the development time AND maintenance
> >overhead this
> >would entail in the future. Struts was a CLEAR winner.
> >
> >Once this site is in full production use in a few weeks time
> >there will also
> >be a section added on the website about the technology used and
> >acknowledging the use of the struts framework. A separate
> >section will also
> >be referenced on the development website giving the technical
> >justification
> >for why struts was chosen as the framework.
> >
> >H.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Childers [mailto:jchilders@hotels.com]
> >Sent: 19 February 2003 15:41
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: Sell me on tiles
> >
> >
> >> I appreciate you've had lots of replies already - but tiles
> >> was the "killer" feature for us in selecting struts. Please don't
> >> misunderstand that struts isn't great anyway - we love it - but
> >> the addition of tiles has made developing complex websites a
> >> breeze.
> >>
> >> There is a very outdated "first-cut" of one of our production
> >> sites at:
> >>
> >> 	http://www.mortgagesurgery.com/
> >>
> >> ... the full production version will be released very soon.
> >
> >Aiii! My eyes!
> >
> >Seriously, good job. We're glad that Struts could be helpful.
> >Amazing what a
> >well designed framework will do for your enthusiasm in getting
> >the job done.
> >
> >> My personal view is (and I'm sure someone will disagree!) -
> >with tiles
> >> available and so well-integrated into struts - you'd be
> >> really missing-out
> >> by not using it - even for the simplest of sites.
> >
> >I sure don't disagree. I'm doing a site for my wife -- a
> >college prof -- in
> >my spare time. It's a very simple site, maybe 10 - 12 pages
> >total, but I'm
> >using tiles for it because it makes life so much easier.
> >Without it I would
> >have an amalgamation of includes, and life would generally be much more
> >difficult.
> >
> >Tiles or death!
> >
> >-= J
> >
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