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From "Andrew Hill" <andrew.david.h...@gridnode.com>
Subject RE: Complicated Web Interfaces?
Date Mon, 02 Dec 2002 03:02:34 GMT
>>"Have you got an alternative suggestion for how to build complicated UIs
for a web browser *without* using client side JavaScript?"

Flash! ;-)

btw: I havent had time to look at JSF yet. Glad to hear its not just for
rendering HTML, but is it applicable to JSP based rendering approaches only,
or more generic than that?


-----Original Message-----
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 09:18
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Complicated Web Interfaces?




On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Jonathan Holloway wrote:

> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:28:39 -0000
> From: Jonathan Holloway <jph8@aber.ac.uk>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Complicated Web Interfaces?
>
> Ok in principle then it seems fine it's just I don't like the fact
> that a scripting language whether client or server side can be
> embedded in the presentation logic, it still seems like a bit of
> a workaround.

Have you got an alternative suggestion for how to build complicated UIs
for a web browser *without* using client side JavaScript?

>  I've wondered about whether the Model2X approach and the
> Model 2 approach for some while now and it seems like the latter doesn't
> seperate the concerns as much as Model 2X.  The only thing that makes me
> doubt this is the fact that Sun and yourself have gone this way via the
> Model 2 approach with Java Server Faces rather than the Model 2
> approach.
> Is there any particular reason why this method is preferred over the
> Model 2X approach?
>

You'll have to point me at a definition of what you mean by "Model 2X" --
I've seen the term bandied about, but don't know of any formal
description.

Regarding JavaServer Faces in particular, it is *not* a goal of JSF to be
focused purely on HTML as the markup language.  There will be a set of
common components included, but no requirement that HTML be the only way
they are rendered.  I fully expect to see JSF implementations using all
sorts of other technologies as well.

> Jon.
>

Craig


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