Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-struts-user-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 64876 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 08:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 08:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3749 invoked by uid 97); 27 Aug 2002 08:44:23 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 3733 invoked by uid 97); 27 Aug 2002 08:44:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Users Mailing List" Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Delivered-To: mailing list struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 3721 invoked by uid 98); 27 Aug 2002 08:44:22 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4218 created Aug 14 2002) X-Originating-IP: [213.96.126.7] From: "Adolfo Miguelez" To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Bcc: Subject: Re: [OT] Hibernate recommendation Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:43:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2002 08:43:51.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE873260:01C24DA5] X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Taking advantage of your knowledge in O/R mapping tools. Do any of you know an O/R mapping tool with is able to generate for itself the classes that map a database schema at runtime. All the frameworks that I inspected need for a previous generation and compilation of the classes matching the schema, but none was able to do it for it self. Any light would be appreciated, Adolfo. >From: Cliff Rowley >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" >To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org >Subject: Re: [OT] Hibernate recommendation >Date: 27 Aug 2002 09:31:20 +0100 > >That's exactly how I've felt for a while. The biggest problem I've >faced is that the only work I've been able to get over the past 6 months >or so has been for small clients, with small budgets - all the major >software companies have died in this area. As such I've been limited by >low spec machines and free software, so that I can make a reasonable >wage and not end up blowing the entire budget and leaving me with >nothing. > >It sounds bad, but in fact it's been really enlightening - and although >I'll probably get dragged into the EJB and JDO etc. when I start working >full time again (hopefully soon, there is a job going locally at last), >I'll always remember this experience. Among the many many rocks, there >have been a few shiny diamonds :) > >On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 09:06, Rosdi bin Kasim wrote: > > > > I must confess that I am somewhat overwhelmed by all these tools >available > > in java community.. > > I still remember those good old days where I hardcoded html codes and >sql > > queries inside my servlet *heheh..*.. > > > > Then come jsp, enhydra, dods,.....etc...., struts.. ojb.. etc etc.. > > > > Now the question shifts.., instead of scratching my head trying to >figure > > out a certain code.. I am scratching my head trying to figure out which > > platform/framework/OR tools should I use for my project.... > > > > *sigh*.... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cliff Rowley" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:50 PM > > Subject: [OT] Hibernate recommendation > > > > > > > Greetings :) > > > > > > You know those days where everything is going right. Everything is > > > falling into place, and you just want to tell somebody. Well, for me >- > > > today is one of those days - so I'm telling you about it :) > > > > > > Hibernate (http://hibernate.sourceforge.net) is the cause of my > > > happiness, and IMHO it is the the best thing since sliced bread. I've > > > tried a billion and one persistence mechanisms and I have found >nothing > > > so far that has pleased me so much. It's fast, flexible and highly > > > idiomatic - and doesn't pretend to be a whole O2R abstraction > > > framework. It's an O2R mapping tool (big difference) with a few > > > _useful_ bells and whistles and doesn't try to hide the JDBC > > > underneath. If at any point you need to step out of your objectified > > > view and dabble with some SQL, Hibernate will let you do that - and >play > > > nicely with whatever you did. It supports the usual suspects - > > > including relationships, lazy loading and components - and some other > > > nice features too, such as persistent Collections, enumerations and >JMX. > > > > > > And to top it off, the author is very clear, very quick at fixing bugs > > > and implementing features, and very focused. He is determined that > > > Hibernate will not become a bloat but still remain fully featured, and > > > thus far he has been successful. If you don't believe me, check out >the > > > forum, the code and the CVS commits. > > > > > > I've been using it for a couple of weeks now, and it's been so good >that > > > I'd actually forgotten I was using it (persistence usually being my > > > biggest headache) - and my application is as snappy as JDBC. > > > > > > That's it, I just thought I'd spread the word - after all that's how > > > good tools get popular. I searched the archives and only found one > > > reference to Hibernate, so I thought I'd double its chances of getting > > > recognised here :) > > > > > > Just in case you missed it - http://hibernate.sourceforge.net > > > > > > (P.S. I am not affiliated with Hibernate in any way) > > > -- > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Cliff Rowley | cliff@onsea.net > > > Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk > > > +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > >-- > >Regards > >------------------------------------------- > Cliff Rowley | cliff@onsea.net > Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk > +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com >------------------------------------------- > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >For additional commands, e-mail: > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: