Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-struts-user-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 67830 invoked from network); 10 May 2002 21:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 10 May 2002 21:13:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 1462 invoked by uid 97); 10 May 2002 21:13:28 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 1416 invoked by uid 97); 10 May 2002 21:13:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Users Mailing List" Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Delivered-To: mailing list struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 1402 invoked by uid 98); 10 May 2002 21:13:26 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4198 created Apr 24 2002) Reply-To: From: "Joseph Barefoot" To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:15:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <89E0E1B7C9C2D311B6360008C733FF070984802D@CLIFF.Tessco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Yep, I have his O'Reilley text, most of which I've read--great tech writer. I'm also adamant about the use of JDOM for all but the most resource-intensive XML tasks, as I feel his API to be far superior to the SAX or DOM standards. I would actually NEVER use the DOM API instead of JDOM; I would only use SAX if speed/large data files were an issue. Yeah, kudos to Jason too, I see his name all over my JDOM javadocs. :) joe > -----Original Message----- > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:05 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp > > > He's a great guy - I've had many conversations with him and Jason on > jdom-interest. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Cavaness [mailto:chuckcavaness@attbi.com] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:00 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp > > > Interesting digression, Brett is the editor for my Struts book. He's an > awesome editor! > > Chuck > > At 01:42 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Brett Mclaughlin is the man. JDOM rules. > > > >my .02 > > > > > >peace, > >Joe > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com] > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:26 PM > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp > > > > > > > > > And just for reference: > > > > > > Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001) > > > Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001) > > > Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:Kenneth.Stout@SUMMITSITE.COM] > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp > > > > > > > > > There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple). > > > > > > 1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want > to > > > separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong > tool > > > but can be considered almost a programming language. So you > > > either teach web > > > designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into > > > XSLT. Tools > > > are on the way which should help solve this issue. > > > 2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each > time. It is my > > > understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled > XSLT > > > (I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with > that > > > arena). > > > > > > Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the > > > "should you > > > today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware. > > > > > > Kenneth. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Struts Newsgroup [mailto:struts@basebeans.com] > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM > > > To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org > > > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp > > > > > > > > > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp > > > From: jisv > > > === > > > Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that > > > have XSLT > > > applied to them to display html pages rather than using > JSP's. I read an > > > article recently that outlined this particular idea, > apparently to even > > > more separate the business logic from presentation, and > > > supposedly increase > > > development time. I would have a couple of questions about how > > > performance > > > would differ, just how much quicker development time would be > and simply > > > why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which > > > has stopped > > > such an implementation being used? > > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: