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From "John M. Corro" <john.co...@cornerstone.net>
Subject Re: Things that use Struts
Date Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:24:30 GMT
Glad to see another cheesehead on the forum, though you hate to hear someone
trash talking the beer in Miller town : )

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chappell@landsend.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: Things that use Struts


Personally, I quit drinking beer when I arrived on this side of the
pond. If I can't get CAMRA approved beer then I'll do without! (And
don't get me started on how bad the tea is over here!!!!!!!)

Simon

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Simon P. Chappell                     simon.chappell@landsend.com
Java Programming Specialist                      www.landsend.com
Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526


>-----Original Message-----
>From: pchowdhr@famousfootwear.com [mailto:pchowdhr@famousfootwear.com]
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:56 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
>
>
>
>I am actually partial to Margharitas ;) As if the beer talk
>was not enough,
>here we go again ....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Olivier Dinocourt" <olivier.dinocourt@anpe.fr> on 01/21/2002
>07:21:32 AM
>
>Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
>      <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>
>To:   "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>cc:
>
>Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
>
>
>is it me or do all web developers drink beer ?
>
>has anyone made a beer-related web site using Struts ? (which
>would bring
>us
>back to the subject of this thread...)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Keith Bacon" <keithbaconstruts@yahoo.com>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:18 PM
>Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>
>
>> is this abuse of this list - had it better stop?
>> Belgian beer - Rochefort 10, English beer - Youngs Winter
>Warmer yumm -
>sorry I got caught up in
>> it now.
>> --- "Robert J. Sanford, Jr." <rsanford@nolimitsystems.com> wrote:
>> > hmmmmmm, beeeeeer.
>> >
>> > bass, guiness, newcastle brown ale, harp...
>> >
>> > yummy!
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: dhay@lexmark.com [mailto:dhay@lexmark.com]
>> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:09 PM
>> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> > > Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sorry...I think you'll find the real beer is only to be found in
>> > > the United
>> > > Kingdom!
>> > >
>> > > D.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Arron <arronb%pacific.net.au@interlock.lexmark.com> on 01/18/2002
>> > > 07:35:53 AM
>> > >
>> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
>> > >       <struts-user%jakarta.apache.org@interlock.lexmark.com>
>> > >
>> > > To:   Struts Users Mailing List
>> > >       <struts-user%jakarta.apache.org@interlock.lexmark.com>
>> > > cc:    (bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark)
>> > > Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Go to www.JBoss.org
>> > > Apparently they're starting to give the larger boys a stir!
>> > >
>> > > More importantly, I need to comment on the beer issue.
>The foster's
>you
>> > > have up there is a US company with an AUS label. The
>only real beer,
>is
>> > > the beer down here!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Arron.
>> > >
>> > > Mark Galbreath wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >My point was more towards the issue of Tomcat not being an EJB
>> > > container and
>> > > >the apparent scope of the company would make EJBs mandatory for
>handling
>> > > >data access.
>> > > >
>> > > >But I know what you mean about a company getting cheap on you.
>> > > I am forced
>> > > >to used JRun (chosen solely based on the price),
>arguablly the worst
>app
>> > > >server on the planet.
>> > > >
>> > > >And stop sending that Foster's crap up here - we want real beer!
>> > > >
>> > > >Cheers!
>> > > >Mark
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Dan Washusen [mailto:dan.washusen@tangent.net.au]
>> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM
>> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Like I said, it's only a proof of concept.  The company in
>> > > question is used
>> > > >to paying a LOT of money for it's application servers,
>apparently
>they
>> > > >almost jumped at the chance at cutting that cost to near
>> > > nothing... I'm only
>> > > >a lowly dev on the project and don't really know any of
>the politics
>> > > >associated.  At the moment the only technical issues I
>am aware of
>with
>> > > >tomcat is it's comparably ineffective method of session
>> > > management and fail
>> > > >over (being restricted to one apache instance for the
>tomcat sticky
>> > > >sessions).
>> > > >
>> > > >Anyway, I just thought you might like to know about it.  We are
>> > > definitely
>> > > >using Struts, Tomcat may change due to the above issue.
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:beer@dirtroad.net]
>> > > >Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 12:23 PM
>> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> > > >Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >"One of Australias' biggest sites?"  How are you going to that
>> > > with Tomcat?
>> > > >
>> > > >Cheers!
>> > > >Mark
>> > > >
>> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >From: "Dan Washusen" <dan.washusen@tangent.net.au>
>> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:02 PM
>> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>Hey everyone,
>> > > >>I'm currently working on a proof of concept for a
>re-write of one
>of
>> > > >>Australia's biggest sites (just under a million
>searches a month).
>The
>> > > >>proof of concept runs the front end (presentation
>layer) on Linux
>with
>> > > >>Tomcat 4 and Struts.  I'll keep you posted on how it
>goes (so far
>so
>> > > >>
>> > > >good).
>> > > >
>> > > >>There is even some talk of Lucene being used.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Needless to say, we are very impressed with both
>Tomcat and Struts.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Cheers,
>> > > >>Dan
>> > > >>
>> > > >>-----Original Message-----
>> > > >>From: Stuart Charlton [mailto:scharlton@infusiondev.com]
>> > > >>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:01 AM
>> > > >>To: 'struts-user@jakarta.apache.org'
>> > > >>Subject: Things that use Struts
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Hi everyone,
>> > > >>
>> > > >>I've been a Struts developer and lurker since 1.0 was first
>released
>and
>> > > >>have been pushing it in a big way within my company...
>Just wanted
>to
>> > > >>
>> > > >throw
>> > > >
>> > > >>in my two cents about where we're using Struts for
>people who are
>> > > >>
>> > > >wondering
>> > > >
>> > > >>whether Struts is right for their project, or if it
>can tackle a
>large
>> > > >>
>> > > >scale
>> > > >
>> > > >>system.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>a) We have a subcontract that's replacing a system for
>a division
>of
>the
>> > > >>U.S. Navy.  This system is replacing 1.5 million lines of COBOL
>> > > code with
>> > > >>
>> > > >a
>> > > >
>> > > >>J2EE solution using Struts, WebLogic and TOPLink.
>After 3 months
>of
>> > > >>development is nearly 60,000 lines of code and will be around
>150,000 by
>> > > >>
>> > > >the
>> > > >
>> > > >>time we're done.  Most of the screens are pretty
>static, but this
>is
>> > > >>definitely a huge system, and Struts' design paradigm
>has scaled
>> > > >>
>> > > >gracefully
>> > > >
>> > > >>(with a lot of help from TOPLink).
>> > > >>
>> > > >>b) One of our financial clients is using a web-based inventory
>> > > system for
>> > > >>trading whole loans & mortgages.  This will be refactored to
>incorporate
>> > > >>Struts over the next several months (currently it's a bit icky,
>> > > somewhere
>> > > >>between JSP model 0 or 1 in terms of modularity).
>> > > >>
>> > > >>c) Our new venture with Random House,
>http://www.codenotes.com/ was
>> > > >>
>> > > >written
>> > > >
>> > > >>completely with Struts on JRun.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Struts is a great framework, the code is clean enough
>to eat off
>of,
>and
>> > > >>
>> > > >it
>> > > >
>> > > >>really makes J2EE sing.  With a lot of the new whiz-bang
>> > > ASP.NET features
>> > > >>coming down the pipe, I think Struts really is what's keeping
>> > > JSP/Servlet
>> > > >>development competitive....
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Cheers
>> > > >>Stu Charlton
>> > > >>Senior Architect / Trainer, Infusion Development
>> > > >>Disclaimer:  Everything in this message is the opinion of your
>humble
>> > > >>correspondent and is not necessarily the opinion of Infusion
>Development
>> > > >>corp.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
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