Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 35097 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 20:43:06 -0000 Received: from mail.matavnet.hu (HELO matavnet.hu) (195.228.240.10) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 20:43:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13535 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 21:43:02 +0100 X-Spam-Warning: line-104-159.dial.matav.net is in the DUL Received: from line-104-159.dial.matav.net (HELO incze.incze.hu) (root@145.236.104.159) by mail.matavnet.hu with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 21:43:02 +0100 Received: (from incze@localhost) by incze.incze.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19210 for struts-user@jakarta.apache.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:33:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:33:45 +0100 From: Incze Lajos To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP Message-ID: <20010306213345.B18465@incze.incze.hu> Mail-Followup-To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org References: <20010306041015.D11837@incze.incze.hu> <20010306091534.93307.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010306091534.93307.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com>; from wongkokwai@yahoo.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:15:34AM -0800 X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:15:34AM -0800, Wong Kok Wai wrote: > So far, the arguments have been based on whether it is > better for the page designer or Java developer. How > about performance? IHMO, it would be interesting to > find out the timing for each of the three approaches. > I would agree with the Velocity's author that JSP > taglibs is no much better than ColdFusion tags if > performance is not addressed. > The elder I am the more tend to think that runtime performance is the very last issue and communicability of the design tend to climb up to the first place. And XML is a special animal as it is defined mainly for machine to machine communication (I mean it is SGML without the lightenings targeted for human authors but made the parsers more complicated). I wrote: > > I think the "canonical" solution in JSP is something > like this: > > --- > type="java.lang.String"> > > > > > Hello > >

> Hello <%= name %> >

> > --- > > On the other hand I do share Jon Stevens' views that > this syntax is really not for page design people. > incze > The "canonical solution" is wrong, jsp:setproperty needs a property attribute as well. (Q.e.d syntax is tough. It is becoming harder and harder working from heart or simply I'm too old and my brain does not serve as needed.) Sorry for that. incze