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From Lukasz Lenart <>
Subject Re: Less boilerplate in code
Date Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:10:59 GMT
2014-06-06 10:52 GMT+02:00 Johannes Geppert <>:
>>I think that's the main case in this whole discussion - it isn't about
>>users and what kind of logging library they are using. That aspect
>>must stay as is, users cannot notice any change.
> Exact the user should be able to use any logging framework he want to
> choose.
> But if Log4j2 facade provides this feature why not use it?

Because it's a huge and boring task - you must rewrite each and every
logging statement to match Log4j2/SLF4j - XWork logger is using #0,
#1,... for params substitution, where Log4j2 is using #{} and SLF4j {}

> Logging itself is not our business or am I wrong?

It's not but we should provide the best possible integration.

If someone want to step in and replace the whole logging layer with
Log4j2/SLF4j I don't see objections. The same with Onyx, I'm not going
to block any contributors' activity.

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