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From Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Date Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:13:35 GMT
I think I understand what Dave meant ... but anyway, I'm up to what
Christian proposed, thus will give clear signal and allows others
(Strutsathon organisers) use the trademark without embarrassment ;-)


Kind regards
-- 
Łukasz
+ 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/

2013/10/13 Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>:
> On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote:
>
>> Meh. What does it matter?
>
>
> You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts?
> Or why should we protect our trademarks?
>
> The first question is obvious. So more so better.
>
> The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so on.
> If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for
> respecting
> our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes).
>
> I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of
> Strutsathons and protecting
> the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
>> On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
>>>
>>> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing
>>>>
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I suggest
>>> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <frans@meruvian.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And good for all of us.
>>>>>
>>>>> F
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before
I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> but forget :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't worry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep
it.
>>>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
>>>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>>>>>>
>>>>> Strutsathon
>>>>>
>>>>>> in Warsaw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Łukasz
>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon"
for the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
>>>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense
a
>>>>>>>> pattern
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some
ownership
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All
Rights
>>>>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
logo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache
Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom
we
>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of
their page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either
registered
>>>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation
in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not
endorse, or
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> opensource.io
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there
are
>>>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest
we
>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also
new events
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> @grobmeier
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