Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25BAA7663 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63387 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2011 03:05:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 62887 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2011 03:05:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 62879 invoked by uid 99); 17 Dec 2011 03:05:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:05:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of mfncooper@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.176 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.176] (HELO mail-ey0-f176.google.com) (209.85.215.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:05:00 +0000 Received: by eaac13 with SMTP id c13so4942160eaa.35 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:04:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wecWZbmQ5wuSMIX4H4lfRKDZVdteVXHn5yQTTakp8iE=; b=hyOkGguxycfCtNaY9iEPy5T2p1gQ1p2P0V6wUT9rxjQq0COs07nUKUAl1bcUzk/Lq6 JjlVMgAVUL0yaqAlRBJ3C/6k2I0vyWP3GhM6Sggv4Lp5lhsrhaaltLJm7DXr2DMCiwto JyXljGWasDtkuDMsXro4ITxauPRmabGgtbp6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.128.3 with SMTP id hc3mr3536645bkc.29.1324091079562; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:04:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: mfncooper@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.129.204 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:04:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:04:39 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: n6vTdHalvXvUTQmlisO_hDnYFCY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.3.1 Vote From: Martin Cooper To: Struts Developers List , lukasz.lenart@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/12/12 =C5=81ukasz Lenart : > 2011/12/9 Martin Cooper : >> We used to post the test build, announce it, wait for a week to give >> people some time to try it out, and then call the vote, since the vote >> is time-limited. Did we stop doing that at some point, and only give >> people 3 days (i.e. the duration of the vote) to test now? > > As a follow up, I've added one more point to the Release guide [1], is > it enough ? That looks fine, as long as everyone is in agreement. The question in my earlier message was just that - a question. The answer, after digging around in the archives, appears to be yes, we did stop doing that, quite some time ago, and somehow I never noticed until now. As far as I can tell, we didn't make a conscious decision to change; it just happened one time when somebody took on the release task. Nobody noticed, and we've kept doing it that way ever since. As for which way we do it going forward, it really depends on how quickly people - PMC members especially, but not only PMC members - feel they can test a new build. It is *very* important that people vote, and test prior to it, based on the actual bits posted by the RM; not their own build, or a recent snapshot they may have downloaded. If enough people believe they can pick up a new build immediately, incorporate it into their own environment, test it thoroughly, and then vote, all within 72 hours, then there shouldn't be a problem with continuing the way we have been. If that seems a bit tight, then we should leave some time for testing before calling the vote. -- Martin Cooper > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WW/Building+Struts+2+-+No= rmal+release#BuildingStruts2-Normalrelease-Announceavailability > > > Kind regards > -- > =C5=81ukasz > + 48 606 323 122=C2=A0http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > Warszawa JUG conference - Confitura http://confitura.pl/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org