Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 26180 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2008 02:03:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 02:03:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5595 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2008 02:03:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 5562 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2008 02:03:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 5551 invoked by uid 99); 23 Aug 2008 02:03:43 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:03:43 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [220.233.0.58] (HELO conker.exetel.com.au) (220.233.0.58) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:02:43 +0000 Received: from [220.233.197.82] (helo=[192.168.1.150]) by conker.exetel.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KWiT8-0001D5-OO for dev@struts.apache.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:10 +1000 Message-ID: <48AF6FF2.20105@blueskyminds.com.au> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:30 +1000 From: Jeromy Evans Organization: Blue Sky Minds Pty Ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: adoption of s2 (was S2 as JSR for Action Framework) References: <3a71add70808212331q6f3b2192qa161f1939341cdf1@mail.gmail.com> <37e451880808220752o3e495353me4bfb1ecc82e2a08@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Just an interesting note: According to the Google keyword tool in English speaking countries and territories: - the number of searches containing the phrase "struts" (-cars) has been flat the last 12 months (approx 1,000,000 per month). I wish I could compare that to previous years. - this is approximately double the volume of searches containing JSF (which is trending upwards) - this is approximately triple the volume of searches containing EJB (which is trending upwards) - rails queries exceeds struts by more than 2 times and trending upwards - grails is low but increasing rapidly (50,000) - wicket has been relatively steady (135,000) Unfortunately there's insufficient information for "struts2" or "struts 2". I also wasn't able to narrow it down to spring-specific technology either (but spring certainly is massively popular at 13M searches/month). What can be drawn from this? Not much in isolation, but based on my own behaviour using Google to lookup struts information I'd say there's a direct positive relationship between search volume and adoption. Combined with trends in occurrences in job advertisements, user-group activity and blog-traffic we'd probably get a better idea. Perhaps it also indicates that struts and spring have more bugs, worse documentation or less-skilled developers than the "standard" frameworks. ;-) But I doubt it. Musachy Barroso wrote: > That's a good point, and I do have a question myself, how are we doing > adoption-wise? Judging from the users mailing list traffic, I would > say well. In any case, just better of talking about this on the user > list rather than here. > > musachy > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:52 AM, James Mitchell wrote: > >> Let the marketplace decide. >> >> Just my $0.02 >> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Frans Thamura wrote: >> >>> hi all >>> >>> is it possible that S2 become part of JCP? >>> >>> java server action framework >>> >>> right now only component framework there >>> >>> any idea? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Frans Thamura >>> Meruvian Foundation >>> >>> Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 >>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/fthamura >>> >>> Training JENI, Medallion (Alfresco, Liferay dan Compiere).. buruan... >>> URL: http://nagasakti.mervpolis.com/roller/mervnews/entry/jeni_training_compiere_dan_alfresco >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> James Mitchell >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org