Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47478 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2008 00:42:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 00:42:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 53490 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2008 00:41:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 53481 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2008 00:41:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 53470 invoked by uid 99); 23 Aug 2008 00:41:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:41:57 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.142.189] (HELO ti-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.142.189) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:41:00 +0000 Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id y8so492085tia.5 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr1967603tib.9.1219452088124; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.39.1 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a71add70808221741h4002c693o49e468c4e61a3921@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:41:27 +0700 From: "Frans Thamura" To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: S2 as JSR for Action Framework In-Reply-To: <7feebe1f0808221253r48fe9bn90851708f67fbda7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3a71add70808212331q6f3b2192qa161f1939341cdf1@mail.gmail.com> <7feebe1f0808221253r48fe9bn90851708f67fbda7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org my experience here, i am the company that selling struts2 in this country and we see that JSF have several complain in several case esp the high performance and we see that people try to say JavaEE as the standard, and we must strict with all JCP related, like JSF, and if we can make S2 as the action standard, we can have another way of devleopment in 'JCP' and also use JCP brand as standard body.. and hopefully can work together with SpringMVC.. who know. the power of Java is standard, isnt it? so i think the slow movement in struts because struts is not part of the standard. i believe struts2 is the most easies and best Action framework in the earth and also the standard will make the big vendor also supporting s2, make plugins etc etc.. i think right now there is only IDEA 8 that will support S2, and the rest is just JSF F --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org