Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41430 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 17:47:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 17:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 79774 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2008 17:47:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 79723 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2008 17:47:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 79712 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jun 2008 17:47:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:47:13 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of mfncooper@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.182] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:46:24 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1460376wag.5 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:46:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=50Pak5niSZk+iTqEu3GXWACOxli2Rf3ZiMb0WH8fPpQ=; b=F2yqvng7MGmEy1uL8rlI6fp+e7eUVzw4F8YhmB9dJt2YatfDk+8o38Ln5ZhoU/fDCW zguij9yWOJephse1czUqKXhc1MHZobsueqnUVLkMSMIL/QNxW/IOaUWdBreELBFcz+oj lgnM4wv5BDkrTawRk0t3OuAR9XzEk43ySsGHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fEmZBeZ9shcI9Xp5xTfboSgyqYc8i3UKeeURPJksJj8mNkcRNoecjALwWFQUAxiL3l jrTopOMDR9mgNofRaiUgMcdrFcrs7d6QzEztH2MxXP7rCsTmtV0hrkYwjGix0SzBVvuX MWHdgy05LUqaLK2mLZK07sk8ZhhS4i0DD1YoU= Received: by 10.114.176.1 with SMTP id y1mr2395266wae.118.1212947200867; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.127.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <16d6c6200806081046s7650bb69u7db5e33a9d152d54@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:46:40 -0700 From: "Martin Cooper" Sender: mfncooper@gmail.com To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: [POLL] Drop strutsel package from 1.4? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13221_5059451.1212947200873" References: <55afdc850806060831l2ad4a8d7yc801b75bda327794@mail.gmail.com> <16d6c6200806072143y18deb8d1y9bbe4083c9239bb2@mail.gmail.com> <16d6c6200806072201m4446e50au32514d0cdb7c8060@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d9a46b9182aedaab X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_13221_5059451.1212947200873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > Martin, would you find it acceptable to leave them where they are and just > relegate them to an optional build profile? That probably makes most sense; > if we still want them buildable (I think we do), then they really aren't > "inactive". Yep, that sounds fine to me. -- Martin Cooper > > Paul > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Paul Benedict > > wrote: > > > > > Martin, > > > > > > If we physically move them out of the struts1 folder (archive is > sibling > > to > > > struts1), then they can no longer be part of the build process if > > desired. > > > I > > > wasn't expecting to cut the life-cord that far! :-) but you desire > > > differently? > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, it can stay where it is or it can move to > archive. > > I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. What I object to is > > multiple flavours of "inactive" within a single project. > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Martin Cooper > > wrote: > > > > > > > As has already been pointed out, we already have a location for > dormant > > > > projects. It's called "archive". I am opposed (-1, if you must) on > > having > > > > two locations for inactive sub-projects. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Paul Benedict > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > If other committers haven't chimed in (or want to chime in again > :-) > > ) > > > > > please do. I think I will be making these changes eventually: > > > > > > > > > > * Move "el" project to "dormant" subfolder > > > > > * Move "faces" project to "dormant" subfolder > > > > > * Add a profile that builds them specifically > > > > > * Up to the future whether the profile is included in the release > > > build. > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Paul Benedict < > pbenedict@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I started this poll because it is, to Wendy's point, double work > to > > > > > > maintain the tag libraries. For every change, I have to update > two > > > > source > > > > > > files -- either two Java or two TLD. Because people have noticed > in > > > the > > > > > past > > > > > > when the two libraries are not in sync, I was looking for a way > to > > > > "move > > > > > > forward" but not kill anyone in the water. Just looking for a > good > > > > > > answer.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Would a better compromise be to move them into a dormant > subproject > > > > (like > > > > > > apps)? I'd also like to do this with the "faces" module too, > since > > > > Craig > > > > > was > > > > > > the only committer and dropped support years ago. I am more than > > > > willing > > > > > to > > > > > > continue releasing them as such, but do want to relegate them to > > > > > > second-class projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Wendy Smoak > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Niall Pemberton > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I guess I'm just wondering what harm does it do leaving it in > > the > > > > > >> > release and the benefit is that it allows people with legacy > > apps > > > > > >> > dependant on it to upgrade with no pain. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It seems to require double work to maintain both taglibs. As > long > > > as > > > > > >> someone is willing to do that work, it can stay... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Honestly, how many apps do you think will upgrade to 1.4? I bet > > > most > > > > > >> of them are still back on 1.1/1.2, and aren't going anywhere. :) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> Wendy > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org > > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_13221_5059451.1212947200873--