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From "Matt Raible" <>
Subject Re: [s2] A thought - next generation OSGi-based?
Date Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:19:04 GMT
I like your thinking and I'm curious to hear more. Are you referring
to something like the OSGi Plugin for loading plugins, or are you
saying that you want to make Struts 3 only run in an OSGi container?


On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Don Brown <> wrote:
> As I learn more and more about OSGi, I wonder if it might be the
>  solution to several big problems we seem to have at the moment: poor
>  reloadability and the lack of a solid API.  With OSGi, you can drop
>  bundles in and out of the system at runtime, even running multiple
>  versions of the same bundle side-by-side, but the feature I'm most
>  interested in right now is how it would allow us to put in a proper
>  API while maintaining full backwards-compatibility.
>  Evolving a web framework is hard because apps tend to be written on a
>  specific version, and to migrate them to new versions has two
>  problems: development may not be continuously funded and the upgrade
>  may require too many changes to the application.  On the other hand,
>  if you don't evolve your web framework, you quickly go out-of-date and
>  lose interest from new developers.  In our case, despite being a
>  relatively new framework, we have legacy code around from 2004 that we
>  can't just remove, yet we want to provide an attractive, modern, clean
>  framework for new development.
>  The specific issue it hand that I've been thinking about is how to get
>  a proper API into Struts 2 yet keep backwards compatibility, and I
>  think OSGi might provide a solution.  What about this:
>   1. Struts 2 and its plugins remain the way they are now - 100%
>  backwards-compatibility
>   2. An OSGi plugin provides the platform for the next generation of Struts 2
>   3. A new API bundle is created, implemented by the underlying Struts
>  2 framework
>   4. Old apps can continue to write and deploy code against Struts 2,
>  yet new development can start to use the new API
>   5. Later, when we want to write API version 2, we create a new bundle
>  that runs side-by-side the old bundle, both implemented by Struts 2
>  Basically, OSGi would allow us to write a clean layer on top of a
>  framework, much like how Grails builds on Spring, but we get, as a
>  side benefit, all the architectural advantages of OSGi for free.
>  Furthermore, if we do it right, users don't have to know or care that
>  OSGi is under the hood - all they know is they write a jar, drop it in
>  a directory or upload it via a form and they just installed part of
>  their application at runtime.
>  Don
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