Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 1395 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 09:05:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 09:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2508 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jan 2008 09:05:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 2477 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jan 2008 09:05:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 2466 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jan 2008 09:05:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:05:06 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of antonio.petrelli@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.180] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:04:42 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so4508072waf.5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:04:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RQI6bCPD3zcb0H1ge+xD18civBHR0UoQJPNXGkwAJv4=; b=F5kn93fUK+H7+gS1xEBB+VY62pCmB6ZJG5K69Zl2ynfeiXNcMvf/ETZfz25+4P1KEFQJp8U/ABrMh+3/BaY8S4Ata2+aWGgh1ZzuANaWTCmFxbWhxxiNIAyiJzPl8eHs+su7BROI6vyAOHb+cyZYf9E5D5EOPiIhcH3T+6ho4Y8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qa5gcFp7IKxDc4BWj0PsmVTMV4A9hwfAI9cYhQ3chaAa3iWN+t6/dOuA6MwlNwQaAZ/q/iPBe+kWV//hI49adSJIm5j6Q5RlfqhDPv1DWtciUNzqbPk5ncTnh4T5anGTzpyyQBWdfzNEbPJ7AMJ6Ulu+ERnSyVStxulBqVPSrA4= Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr5368210waf.19.1200387887604; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.73.5 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:04:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:04:47 +0100 From: "Antonio Petrelli" To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Should voting +1 on a release imply that the vote intends to help support the release? In-Reply-To: <408006A9BDB4400BA56281A5CF3E2AA9@AlsQ6600> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15157_1242799.1200387887596" References: <8b3ce3790801141725p3050ec87i411dc1195ba63080@mail.gmail.com> <4D36AC15C3784B42B6A77D2A4E05A58C@AlsQ6600> <408006A9BDB4400BA56281A5CF3E2AA9@AlsQ6600> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_15157_1242799.1200387887596 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/1/15, Al Sutton : > > So if you wouldn't +1 for a release with no support, then what do you do > to > ensure support is available before +1ing? Nothing: in real world, how do you ensure that a volunteer entity works? Trust, belief that the volunteers are good people, and other beautiful things. After all, as committers, we all have been invited after supporting the community, so we all are *good* people :-) We are not obliged to work on Struts, we can go away at any time, and we have not deadlines. So, the *forced obligation* of support seems like a nonsense to me. Antonio ------=_Part_15157_1242799.1200387887596--