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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:43:32 -0600
From: "Tom Schneider" <schneidh@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core
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Well, Richard Burton is supposed to be working on an MVEL value stack,
so hopefully we'll be able to pit them all against each other. :)
Tom

On 11/7/07, Chris Brock <brockm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the record, I still maintain that it's better :)
>
>
> Tom Schneider wrote:
> >
> > Putting down my work would only motivate me more. :)  That's exactly
> > how this was started back in February--Chris Brock was bragging about
> > how superior MVEL was and how slow OGNL was.  Well, we'll show him!
> > Tom
> >
> > On 11/7/07, Ian Roughley <ian@fdar.com> wrote:
> >> It's great that Tom is doing this work, and it wasn't my intent to put
> >> down the effort.  I guess I was just trying to preempt given some of the
> >> OGNL threads.
> >>
> >> /Ian
> >>
> >> Tom Schneider wrote:
> >> > LOL, I didn't know my efforts were going to cause such a raucous. :)
> >> >
> >> > Ted is correct--I started this on Saturday on a whim.  At this point
> >> > it is completely experimental--we have a long ways to go before it is
> >> > even close to usable.  However, I was able to execute a simple
> >> > expression using my value stack, which for me, was a worthwhile
> >> > accomplishment.  I didn't want Don's work to abstract away the value
> >> > stack to be completely wasted, we needed at least one other value
> >> > stack implementation to truly test his changes.  Don did good work,
> >> > but there is still a lot of OGNLisms that have crept into the code
> >> > over time.  It would be nice to find and eliminate these
> >> >
> >> > Ian brings up a good point in that we'll have to decide how to handle
> >> > some things like I18N/type conversion/method invocation.  Not all EL's
> >> > are created equal and OGNL probably is a little more flexible and
> >> > powerful than most.  Then even if we get all that working, what's the
> >> > migration strategy?
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >>
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