Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55620 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2007 23:44:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2007 23:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 51639 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2007 23:44:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 51604 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2007 23:44:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 51593 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jul 2007 23:44:53 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:44:53 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.227.215.170] (HELO chiron.lunarpages.com) (216.227.215.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:44:49 -0700 Received: from c-71-230-43-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([71.230.43.254] helo=[192.168.123.6]) by chiron.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I7gQX-0006rr-5i for dev@struts.apache.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: <469176D7.5050706@omnytex.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:44:23 -0400 From: "Frank W. Zammetti" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts 1/2 and Logging References: <468EEEC9.9060100@apache.org> <468EF2C4.6080102@apache.org> <4690B8BE.40709@apache.org> <4690EE06.5000609@omnytex.com> <16d6c6200707081011x4cd28267y5727373951eac1cb@mail.gmail.com> <46915BA9.2070103@omnytex.com> <46917475.4090301@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <46917475.4090301@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - chiron.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - struts.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - omnytex.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org FWIW, my opinion would be go ahead and change it... unless someone can show where it would cause trouble, I'm in the better safe than sorry camp. I know of a number of instances where I've seen Struts installed in a shared way, either at EAR-level or something like Tomcat's shared libs directory... I've never heard any trouble reported from those cases though to be fair. I think the performance/memory implications are the only thing that might stop you from wanting to do this... perhaps some benchmarking is in order? Frank Paul Benedict wrote: > I use WAS 6.0 at work and it took me 3 full days to figure out how to > get log4j working with it. Ugh. Yes, the software is an elephant. > > Anyway, despite the fact that Struts 1 supports only static logging, I > believe this position could be evaluated. Correct me when wrong, but the > article states that instance logging should belong in libraries that > could be shared. What if a company wants to integrate Struts or XWork > into their application server software? Perhaps a typically user > wouldn't want to share Struts libraries in the parent classloader, but > what about in J2EE server? It's just a thought. > > It wouldn't be too hard to convert the static loggers. > > Paul > > Frank W. Zammetti wrote: >> Martin Cooper wrote: >>> It would be the same thing in the sense of the "direction" of the class >>> loader, and I would expect the same screwy things to happen. And if >>> you're >>> using WebFear, then I'd fully expect other screwy things to happen as >>> well, >>> as a free bonus. ;-) >> >> Hehe, I know *exactly* what you mean :) Between WS and RAD, my hair >> is starting to look like Bill Clinton's, but at a much younger age! >> >>> Martin Cooper >> >> Frank >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org > > > > > -- -- Frank W. 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