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From "Don Brown" <>
Subject Re: Has the WebWork rebranding to Struts2 been a failure?
Date Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:45:05 GMT
My quick response to this is you are missing the point.  Struts is not a
company, nor is it a product that we are trying to sell.  It is a framework
we, its developers and users, use to make our lives easier.  As I've tried
to say from the beginning - we aren't "rebranding" WebWork 2 as Struts 2,
but merging development communities to create a new, evolved framework.  My
definition of success is to see developers from Struts 1 and WebWork 2
working on the same codebase, pushing its vision further, and therefore,
I've found the merger a solid success.  Most of the WebWork 2 developers are
very active in Struts 2 as are many of the Struts 1 developers.  The current
releases, headed by Struts and WebWork committers, are a testament to this.

None of us are paid to work on Struts 2, so the more smart developers we
have donating their precious time, the more the code evolves and the higher
the quality.  To be honest, Struts 1 development has really been rather slow
the last few years, but this merger has helped ensured Struts 2 won't suffer
the same fate.  I know my day job has benefited from the work Struts 2
committers and users have put into the 2.0.x releases, so whether the "Java
community" recognizes the value of Struts 2 or not, I know my applications
and users certainly have.


On 6/23/07, Martin Gilday <> wrote:
> This is something I have been thinking about for a while, but has been
> highlighted by Wicket recently graduating from the Apache Incubator.
> When checking out blogs, newsgroups, theserverside, infoq etc it has
> become apparent to me that Struts 2 is still very much thought of as
> just Struts 1++, in a negative sense.  When you see posts by people
> saying which web frameworks they have tried out because they were
> unhappy with Struts 1 then Wicket, Click, Tapestry are mentioned. Struts
> 2, however, is always seemingly dismissed without a look, as they feel
> all the problems they have with Struts 1 must still exist.  Of course
> there is plently on info on the wiki detailing why they are different,
> but if they have already crossed it off the list before getting to the
> site it isn't much use in getting the message across.  I'm not really
> sure what my point is as the name is the name now.  Maybe some positive
> marketing such as some blog posting about the improvements and
> differences, or in release annoucements really strongly detailing them.
> What do you think about Struts 2 current image in the Java community?
> Thanks,
> Martin.
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