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From "Anders Steinlein" <>
Subject Struts release timelines (Was: RE: [s2] Struts 2.0.0 - Tag it and Roll it?)
Date Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:52:54 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [] On 
> Behalf Of Ted Husted
> Sent: 25. juli 2006 00:45
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: [s2] Struts 2.0.0 - Tag it and Roll it?
> On 7/24/06, Anders Steinlein <> wrote:
> > > IMHO, all the users, including ourselves, are served best when we 
> > > release early and release often.
> >
> > Isn't this kind of ironic you repeating this over and over 
> again given 
> > the state of the 1.3 release?
> >
> > [...]
> I'd say it's effort to learn from history, lest we be doomed 
> to repeat it.
> In 1.x terms, the 1.3. release is running near the average. 
> We're in the 17th month, and 1.x releases have been averaging 
> 18. (Struts 1.1 took two years.) And, in the meantime, we've 
> had significant 1.2 milestone releases too. Given that 1.2.9 
> when GA in March 2006, from last GA to first GA, 1.3 is 
> liable to be our quickest release yet. :)
> Still, for 2.x and beyond, I'd like to do better.

I didn't mean to nag or sound negative, but I'm glad you plan to do
better. It isn't really the time between new features and bug fixes that
"bother me" much, it's the time they take to finalize and release. The
latest 1.3 releases have, to my recollection, had pretty few issues that
have prevented them from being GA. Then it takes several months before
you give it another try.

I understand you all have limited time and resources, but when the code
has been as stable and complete for so long as is the case with 1.3, I
don't see why you (as in "the Struts commiters", not you particularly
Ted ;) can't push it through faster. Couldn't some 2.0 work halted to
just get this done?

Again, I only mean this as constructive criticism, as I wish for Struts
2.x the very best. :)

This is, I guess, pretty much what Ted and Don are talking about
regarding 2.0.0. Please concentrate on the nearest release (which will
hopefully be 2.0.0 very soon) instead of scattering your resources all
over the place. :)


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