Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16788 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 16:34:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 16:34:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 65172 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 2006 16:34:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 65127 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 2006 16:34:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 65111 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jun 2006 16:34:40 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:34:40 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [199.9.2.132] (HELO zeus.w2k.nrlmry.navy.mil) (199.9.2.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:34:37 -0700 Received: from [199.9.2.211] ([199.9.2.211]) by zeus.w2k.nrlmry.navy.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:34:16 -0700 Message-ID: <44997508.8010007@twdata.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:34:16 -0700 From: Don Brown User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long) References: <44982FB4.7050001@twdata.org> <8b3ce3790606210835u75f487aao8a9685e924be5b27@mail.gmail.com> <7b98087c0606210927g516187a9vd96e1e11cde965ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7b98087c0606210927g516187a9vd96e1e11cde965ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2006 16:34:16.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[89B6D1E0:01C69550] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Tim O'Brien wrote: > There is obviously a good deal > of exchange, but the frameworks "compete" (not my words). While this may be true politically, from a code perspective, I completely disagree. Just about every feature of Shale, AFAIK can easily be used with Action 2: Spring integration, clay, message bundles, basically anything that doesn't use an alternative NavigationHandler or Lifecycle. I think Shale is a great project and plan to use it where I can in Action 2 JSF examples as it really makes JSF easier. I think JSF is a very legitimate view option for Action 2 and Shale fills in JSF's gaps quite nicely. Don --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org