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From "Dakota Jack" <>
Subject Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)
Date Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:33:02 GMT
This is so odd.  You begin by recognizing the problem and trying to hide
it.  Now you deny the problem and want to continue it in spades.  Everyone
who knows anything about frameworks sees that these two frameworks are
inherently incompatible.  They have been from the start.  That is the
problem.  Had Craig not had a career dependent presently on the success of
JSF and also the pull at Struts, this mess would never have happened.

On 6/21/06, Don Brown <> wrote:
> Tim O'Brien wrote:
> > There is obviously a good  deal
> > of exchange, but the frameworks "compete" (not my words).
> While this may be true politically, from a code perspective, I completely
> disagree.  Just about every feature of Shale, AFAIK can easily be used
> with
> Action 2: Spring integration, clay, message bundles, basically anything
> that
> doesn't use an alternative NavigationHandler or Lifecycle.  I think Shale
> is a
> great project and plan to use it where I can in Action 2 JSF examples as
> it
> really makes JSF easier.  I think JSF is a very legitimate view option for
> Action 2 and Shale fills in JSF's gaps quite nicely.
> Don
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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
~Dakota Jack~

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