Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51777 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2006 04:42:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 2006 04:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13591 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2006 04:42:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-struts-dev-archive@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 13054 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2006 04:42:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@struts.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@struts.apache.org Received: (qmail 13043 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2006 04:42:34 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:42:34 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [206.190.53.32] (HELO smtp107.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.53.32) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:42:33 -0700 Received: (qmail 88460 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2006 04:42:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (jmitchtx@68.209.114.10 with plain) by smtp107.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2006 04:42:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <8b3ce3790604210556g3faef4c6gc7c16f8848389696@mail.gmail.com> <281617D0-7F63-4370-8114-9869F1430DAD@apache.org> <16d6c6200604221137r251441fchd079e0ff836454b5@mail.gmail.com> <8b3ce3790604230943i528f206dr1a3c1e3e7181a5a4@mail.gmail.com> <444BBF8A.20703@twdata.org> <444BC481.8020808@twdata.org> <16d6c6200604231129vd019e5dl9f803dd41d754157@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <13649819-152F-440E-A6D7-DC021929A5E1@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Mitchell Subject: Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:41:57 -0400 To: "Struts Developers List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I'm in the same camp on this one. I think we (SAF1) should be providing a plugin that provides Tiles integration. -- James Mitchell On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: > On 4/23/06, Martin Cooper wrote: >> >> On 4/23/06, Don Brown wrote: >>> >>> I would think it would be Tiles' responsibility to support >>> deployment >>> with Struts. In that view, Tiles would be its own project, yet >>> part of >>> it would depend on struts-action.jar to provide the Struts >>> hooks. In >>> the same way, they would provide Struts Action 2 hooks, if >>> necessary. >> >> >> This is a tough one - for me, at least. Should an independent >> Tiles have >> glue code for Struts, or should it be Struts' responsibility to >> provide >> the >> glue? If we look at Velocity, the glue is over there, but we've also >> talked >> about it coming here. If we look at Validator, the glue is here. >> If we >> look >> at Chain, the servlet and portlet glue is over there. > > > I've always thought it would be as Martin describes for Validator -- > standalone Tiles would really be standalone, and each framework > that wanted > to utilize it would provide it's own glue to some particular version > (s) of > Standalone Tiles. That is what Shale already does with the > standalone Tiles > stuff -- for example, Shale integrates tiles into the standard JSF > navigation mechanism. That's not something that it seems > reasonable to > impose on a "standalone" project. > > My preference, at least at this time, would be for the Struts / > Tiles glue >> to stay here. That will help Standalone Tiles stand on its own >> feet, and >> especially help with the notion that it's now independent of >> Struts. Any >> perception - real or otherwise - that Tiles is tied to Struts will be >> detrimental to Tiles as an independent library. > > > +1 > > -- >> Martin Cooper > > > Craig --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org