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From Paul Benedict <paul4chris...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: WebWork renaming strategy *revised*
Date Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:41:26 GMT
Johnathan,

I don't see the necessity of a problem from within your viewpoint.
Struts 2.0 is going to be built from WebWork; I suppose you can 
consider Struts 2.0 a fork of WebWork, because, unless I am unaware
of something here, this doesn't prevent other people from developing
WebWork if they want to continue it. It is going to become a different
product and probably contain new things WW may not want to do on its
own. So, I understand your perspective, but I don't think there is
anything wrong with the way things are being handled. And as Ted 
pointed out, WW folks are on board with this. -- Paul

--- Jonathan Revusky <revusky@wanadoo.es> wrote:

> Paul Benedict wrote:
> >>>cry that they are so innocent and all (such wonderful 
> >>>people) but surely there is some agenda in wanting to excise "webwork" 
> >>>and "ww" from all the code, isn't there?
> > 
> > 
> > Isn't the purpose of this to excise the webwork name? 
> 
> Well, at the marketing level, maybe. That this necessarily translates to 
> excising the string "webwork" from all the package names is less 
> obvious. As an outside observer, I see no need to systematically remove 
> the string "webwork" from everywhere as if it were a curse word.
> 
> Also, my understanding was that Struts is now an "umbrella" and that the 
> gain was from being under that umbrella. I don't see how this requires 
> the string "webwork" or "ww" to be excised from everywhere, down to the 
> nth level of package names -- in particular, once the package names 
> start with org.apache.struts.
> 
> It would more imply excising the string "opensymphony" from everywhere 
> -- which is a step that I find completely understandable, since 
> opensymphony is an umbrella and webwork is moving from that umbrella 
> over to this one.
> 
> > I thought
> > it was. Why else would you want to become "Struts 2.0" if not
> > for the name?
> 
> Well, there is no "Struts 2.0" really. At least that's my understanding 
> of the official line now. Struts is an umbrella. You have Struts Action 
> and Struts Shale.
> 
> > I don't see this renaming as a slam against the heritage,
> > but this entire process doesn't make any sense unless you're specficially
> > wanting to be rebranded as Struts.
> 
> Well, my guess is that the motivation of the Webwork people for this was 
> to *gain* the Apache/Struts name, not particularly to *lose* the Webwork 
> name. If Apache/Struts is now an umbrella, that implies replacing  the 
> string "OpenSymphony" rather than the "Webwork" string.
> 
> Jonathan Revusky
> --
> lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
> FreeMarker group blog, http://freemarker.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
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