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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:21:38 -0800
From: Craig McClanahan <craigmcc@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Struts offers "Shale" for JSF
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On 12/15/05, Paul Benedict <paul4christ79@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dakota,
>
> Last week, I wrote about three messages voicing my opinon that I think it
> is an error to accept
> Shale under the Struts banner. I still hold that to be true, but I also
> see the justification of
> the commiters, which are:
>
> [1] Struts is now an "umbrella" label to contain MANY frameworks. As the
> old Action 1.x framework
> phases out, others will come in like WebWork/Struts 2.x, Shale, etc.
>
> [2] Many companies recognize the Struts label, so having Shale called
> Struts Shale allows your
> manager to instantly buy into the technology.
>
> [3] IBM has certified Struts; so this is certification for Shale too (ala
> point #2).
>
> [4] Sharing the Struts community with Shale is a big win for JSF.
>
> I can't really argue with these opinions; their reasoning is sound. The
> philosophy is certainly
> much different than mine and I prefer Struts to be the name of ONE
> FRAMEWORK ONLY TO PREVENT
> BRANDING DILUTION, but I was told by a Commiter "what difference does it
> make to you?" Well I
> certainly won't be caring anymore with that kind of response :) I cared
> because I was interested
> in not diluting the brand name but... I can only care so much since, in
> reality, it's not my
> decision and responsibility anyway.


By the way, the original decision to incorporate Shale as a subproject
occurred nearly 11 months ago:

  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dstruts-user&m=3D110651419515521&w=3D2

-- Paul


Craig

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